"you would use feature detection" - unfortunately it doesn't work Good real-life example is WebRtc: you can check it is supported, then you need to know which browser your client is using .... (Plan A, Plan B, Universal, "Safari way")
Another example wmode for <object>, FF acts differently, so I really miss "which-browser" feature detection .... On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:31 AM, Korbinian Bachl <korbinian.ba...@whiskyworld.de> wrote: > > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- >>> even in 2009 it was considered bad: https://www.sitepoint.com/why- >>> browser-sniffing-stinks/ >>> and in case that is not enough, read what the guy that invented modernizr >>> has to say: >>> http://farukat.es/journal/2011/02/499-lest-we-forget-or- >>> how-i-learned-whats-so-bad-about-browser-sniffing/ >>> >>> >> I do not trust anyone who says "don't do it this way" but doesn't say how >> to do it! >> >> There are several of "if (isBrowserX()) {...} else {...}" in Wicket JS code >> and they served well for the last decade. >> Since there are several other *Java* libraries for user agent detection >> this means that someone still finds them useful despite what other people >> claim. > > unreliable things wont get reliably by pointing into the past and then > telling that your fater did it the same way.... > > nowadays you would use feature detection, see: > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Tools_and_testing/Cross_browser_testing/Feature_detection > >> >> >>> btw: >>> https://github.com/HaraldWalker/user-agent-utils -> this is EOL, guess >>> why... >>> https://github.com/pieroxy/java-user-agent-detection/releases -> last >>> release from september 2017... >>> >>> >> Sep 2017 is like yesterday > > (all only MAJOR releases!) > > 28. September 2017 - Firefox 56 > 14. November 2017 - Firefox 57 Quantum > 23. Januar 2018 - Firefox 58 > 13. März 2018 - Firefox 59 > > 2017-09-05 - Chrome 61.0.3163 > 2017-10-17 - Chrome 62.0.3202 > 2017-12-05 - Chrome 63.0.3239 > 2018-01-23 - Chrome 64.0.3282 > 2018-03-06 - Chrome 65.0.3325 > > and this is just 2 desktop ones! I dont want to talk about the loads of > updates my android device got in that time (firefox mobile, chrome and > samsung internet!) - oh, and btw: they still lie about the user agent all > time.... dont get me wrong, but sep 17 is freaking old in case you need to > reliably detect the browser! -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
