Benson when do you plan to cut over to the Confluence system? I'd rather write it up for that directly.
Sanjiva. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:59 AM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote: > No response necessary, could we just bare it in mind when updating the > site? As Sanjiva has said he's working on some updates lets wait and > see what they look like. I'd like to see a paragraph right at the top > of the front page summarizing the history and ground breaking > significance of the WS project with links to where the projects have > gone. > > ...ant > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Ant(hony), > > > > I can't think of much to write here in response that I didn't already > > write in my lengthy prior email. If you have content you'd like to > > see, add it (if you are still a WS committer) or tee up a patch in a > > JIRA. > > > > --benson > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:13 PM, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project > >> wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i > >> don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay > >> homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history > >> page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing > >> WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved > >> out or been retired. > >> > >> ...ant > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> <meta> > >>> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion? While there are > certainly > >>> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are > "The > >>> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same. > >>> > >>> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here. I don't know if you had too much > coffee > >>> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :) > >>> </meta> > >>> > >>> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to > want > >>> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust > we've > >>> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the > >>> projects, the PMC list, etc. 10 months is plenty long for a project to > move > >>> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs > within > >>> a month or two. On the other hand, of course people are busy and > website > >>> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :) So let's please try to > get > >>> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs > doing > >>> rather than who's asking. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> --Glen > >>> > >>> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It's been 10 MONTHS!?! I think that's been more than an adequate > amount of > >>>> time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving > to a TLP. > >>>> You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was > able to copy > >>>> the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever > you guys do > >>>> for web content). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I noticed that ws.apache.org <http://ws.apache.org> does not say a > WORD about > >>>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's > reasonable??! That > >>>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members. > >>>> > >>>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the > >>>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history. > >>>> > >>>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back > some > >>>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its > ours and > >>>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this > project! > >>>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you > may wish > >>>> for that to be the case. > >>>> > >>>> Sanjiva. > >>>> -- > >>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > >>>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; > >>>> http://www.opensource.lk/ > >>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/ > >>>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/ > >>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > >>>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/ > >>>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ > >>>> > >>>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/ Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/ Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/ Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
