So if this is true, Macromedia (my and Glen Daniels employer at the time) and 
now Adobe owns a copyright on Apache Axis code?  We just didn't ask the 
team to put this copyright in the code/NOTICE file?

And Day (now Adobe) has copyrights on the JackRabbit code?

And Sun (now Oracle) has copyrights on the tomcat code?

But the license is all ASF....

Really?  

Tom Jordahl


-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Kulp [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Tom Jordahl; Benson Margulies
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release WSS4J 1.5.10

On Monday 29 November 2010 12:01:00 pm Tom Jordahl wrote:
> Arg!
> 
> In order to submit a patch, isn't it a requirement that all rights of the
> patch be transferred over to the ASF?

No.   In fact, in almost no cases does code contributed to the ASF include the 
copyright.    When I make a commit to any code at the ASF, I (or my employer 
if I'm doing it as a work for hire) maintain the copyright on the code.   
HOWEVER, as part of my ICLA and my companies CCLA, the ASF is granted a 
license to use the code.      

> I think we need to consult legal on this, because if the Innovation Center
> owns a copyright and/or license to the WSS4J code, that is not so good.

This is  no different.   They maintain the copyright.   However, when they 
submitted it to the JIRA, they clicked on the tick box that says they "Grant 
license to ASF for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)".   
This is no different than the above.  

Dan


> I would be -1 for accepting a patch that comes with copyrights.
> 
> Tom Jordahl
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Kulp [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Benson Margulies
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release WSS4J 1.5.10
> 
> On Monday 29 November 2010 10:44:37 am Benson Margulies wrote:
> > Do we really have to credit patches?
> 
> If they request it, yes.   They hold the copyright on the material in that
> patch and, while they license it to us under the  Apache License, the
> Apache License specifically states we need to keep notices intact that the
> copyright holders request/require.
> 
> In this case, the submitter has asked that the copyright notice be in the
> NOTICE.     Thus, we need to keep it there.
> 
> Dan
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Tom Jordahl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Conditional +1 (binding)
> > > 
> > > I noticed that the NOTICE file has the following:
> > > 
> > > "This product includes software Copyright University of Southampton IT
> > > Innovation Centre, 2006 (http://www.it-innovation.soton.ac.uk)."
> > > 
> > > I couldn't figure out what software this was - if I am using
> > > wss4j-1.5.10.jar, do I have to worry about this?  This should be
> > > removed or we should be clearer about what this means (i.e. what part
> > > do I need to exclude if I ship a product with wss4j in it).
> > > 
> > > Also, the date in the NOTICE file is 2009, probably should be 2010.
> > > 
> > > I only examined the binary zip, did not try to build the source.
> > > 
> > > Tom Jordahl
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Colm O hEigeartaigh [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:17 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [VOTE] Release WSS4J 1.5.10
> > > 
> > > To the Apache Web Services Community,
> > > 
> > > This is a call for votes for the wss4j-1.5.10 release. This release
> > > contains an upgrade to use XML Security 1.4.4, some important fixes
> > > for supporting chained certificates and processing SAML assertions, as
> > > well as a couple of other issues.
> > > 
> > > The distribution was built from the following SVN tag;
> > > 
> > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/webservices/wss4j/tags/1_5_10/
> > > 
> > > The distribution can be found at the following URL:
> > > 
> > > http://people.apache.org/~coheigea/stage/wss4j/1.5.10/dist/
> > > 
> > > You can also point maven at the following URL to pull down the 1.5.10
> > > release POM, source, and class JARs:
> > > 
> > > http://people.apache.org/~coheigea/stage/wss4j/1.5.10/maven/
> > > 
> > > This vote will stay open for at least 72 hours.
> > > 
> > > Here is my +1 (binding).
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Colm.
> > > 
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