Really. :) That is my understanding as well. In practice, the copyright doesn't much *matter* because the ASL allows for unencumbered copying/modification/usage, but it is retained by the authors.
http://www.apache.org/dev/apply-license.html --Glen On 11/29/2010 12:17 PM, Tom Jordahl wrote: > So if this is true, Macromedia (my and Glen Daniels employer at the time) and > now Adobe owns a copyright on Apache Axis code? We just didn't ask the > team to put this copyright in the code/NOTICE file? > > And Day (now Adobe) has copyrights on the JackRabbit code? > > And Sun (now Oracle) has copyrights on the tomcat code? > > But the license is all ASF.... > > Really? > > Tom Jordahl > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Kulp [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Tom Jordahl; Benson Margulies > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release WSS4J 1.5.10 > > On Monday 29 November 2010 12:01:00 pm Tom Jordahl wrote: >> Arg! >> >> In order to submit a patch, isn't it a requirement that all rights of the >> patch be transferred over to the ASF? > > No. In fact, in almost no cases does code contributed to the ASF include > the > copyright. When I make a commit to any code at the ASF, I (or my employer > if I'm doing it as a work for hire) maintain the copyright on the code. > HOWEVER, as part of my ICLA and my companies CCLA, the ASF is granted a > license to use the code. > >> I think we need to consult legal on this, because if the Innovation Center >> owns a copyright and/or license to the WSS4J code, that is not so good. > > This is no different. They maintain the copyright. However, when they > submitted it to the JIRA, they clicked on the tick box that says they "Grant > license to ASF for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)". > This is no different than the above. > > Dan > > >> I would be -1 for accepting a patch that comes with copyrights. >> >> Tom Jordahl >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Daniel Kulp [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 10:51 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Benson Margulies >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release WSS4J 1.5.10 >> >> On Monday 29 November 2010 10:44:37 am Benson Margulies wrote: >>> Do we really have to credit patches? >> >> If they request it, yes. They hold the copyright on the material in that >> patch and, while they license it to us under the Apache License, the >> Apache License specifically states we need to keep notices intact that the >> copyright holders request/require. >> >> In this case, the submitter has asked that the copyright notice be in the >> NOTICE. Thus, we need to keep it there. >> >> Dan >> >>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Tom Jordahl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Conditional +1 (binding) >>>> >>>> I noticed that the NOTICE file has the following: >>>> >>>> "This product includes software Copyright University of Southampton IT >>>> Innovation Centre, 2006 (http://www.it-innovation.soton.ac.uk)." >>>> >>>> I couldn't figure out what software this was - if I am using >>>> wss4j-1.5.10.jar, do I have to worry about this? This should be >>>> removed or we should be clearer about what this means (i.e. what part >>>> do I need to exclude if I ship a product with wss4j in it). >>>> >>>> Also, the date in the NOTICE file is 2009, probably should be 2010. >>>> >>>> I only examined the binary zip, did not try to build the source. >>>> >>>> Tom Jordahl >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Colm O hEigeartaigh [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:17 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [VOTE] Release WSS4J 1.5.10 >>>> >>>> To the Apache Web Services Community, >>>> >>>> This is a call for votes for the wss4j-1.5.10 release. This release >>>> contains an upgrade to use XML Security 1.4.4, some important fixes >>>> for supporting chained certificates and processing SAML assertions, as >>>> well as a couple of other issues. >>>> >>>> The distribution was built from the following SVN tag; >>>> >>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/webservices/wss4j/tags/1_5_10/ >>>> >>>> The distribution can be found at the following URL: >>>> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~coheigea/stage/wss4j/1.5.10/dist/ >>>> >>>> You can also point maven at the following URL to pull down the 1.5.10 >>>> release POM, source, and class JARs: >>>> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~coheigea/stage/wss4j/1.5.10/maven/ >>>> >>>> This vote will stay open for at least 72 hours. >>>> >>>> Here is my +1 (binding). >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Colm. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
