jkesselm commented on PR #1:
URL: https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/pull/1#issuecomment-1770990287

   Apologies if I offended. I'm just getting back into Apache, and I'm used to 
working in company git environments where people are less concerned about 
individual credit than about whether the improvement gets made, so I may be a 
bit fast on the gun in trying to simplify our backlog, and in closing before 
consensus is reached. Objection  accepted, I'll try to be more careful about 
that.
   
   
   
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   I suggest reconsidering and merging the suggestion instead. It would result 
in showing carlosame among the contributors (e.g. 
https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/graphs/contributors ), and it would 
encourage the others.
   
   Thank you for your comment, however yesterday after this PR was closed I 
removed my Xalan fork and I'd rather not redo the work.
   
   Moreover I have no interest in having my name associated with Apache Xalan. 
I watched how 2.7.3 directly included the BCEL packages despite my warn about 
split packages (modular JDKs will reject Xalan if BCEL happens to be also in 
the modulepath). Then how your PR was ignored "because we do not need CI now" 
despite it offering other improvements, and then for example a more quirky 
alternative for test execution being merged instead. Etc... you just have to 
read the mailing list discussions.
   
   I do not think that giving negative opinions on other open source projects 
is desirable, however I'm puzzled to see how the ASF keeps pushing Github as a 
way to get more contributions to their projects but then it continues with "The 
Apache Way" as described above. I wonder how many other people are going to get 
their time wasted due to this.
   
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