jkesselm commented on PR #123:
URL: https://github.com/apache/xalan-java/pull/123#issuecomment-1813793804

   > uglier than make files
   
   It should be noted that makefiles, done properly, are also declarative. They 
don't have as good encapsulation around "plug-ins", or as many canned solutions 
available off the shelf, and they aren't platform-independent. But if anything 
they are *more* dependency driven, since they rely solely on artifact 
dependency rather than phase or module dependency. 
   
   In fact the use of the latter. combined with the inconsistencies from plugin 
to plugin over things that could be core behaviors,  suggests that Maven is 
working but not yet achieving its stated philosophy. Which is OK, as long as 
folks recognize that it may getting toward time to gather the lessons learned 
and consider breaking changes to bring everything back in line -- another 
major-version release. 


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