Although I am not an ASF member, I'm happy to help mentor this
proposal. I was involved with XMLBeans (Java) and Beehive as they
went through the incubator, and am currently involved in the Tuscany
incubating project, so I'm pretty familiar with the process and
relevant issues.
On 5/16/06, Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the people behind this proposal are ready to submit an
initial code
> base and get started, I'd like to call this proposal to a vote, but
> first...
>
> We need at least one more mentor. A project mentor is typically an
> ASF Member (http://apache.org/foundation/members.html), but can
> occasionally be a non-ASF Member who is nominated to become a
member
> of the Incubator PMC.
>
> Are there any ASF Members on this list who would volunteer to
help me
> mentor this project?
>
> I agreed to do it all myself a year ago, but I am much too busy
now to
> make that commitment without at least one person helping me.
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
> On 3/29/06, Allen Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please ignore the last note. It was missing some final changes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a proposal for an xmlbeans subproject which should be
discussed here
> > and voted on at the xmlbeans PMC. This is a modification of
an earlier
> > proposal (May 15, 2005). This proposal is being resubmitted
on the advice
> > of Cliff Schmidt. The nature of the proposal changed when the
company Touk
> > offered to submit their xmlbeansxx code base as the initial
code. In order
> > to move the project along as quickly as possible, we have
elected to take
> > full advantage of the Touk existing code and resources. One
result of these
> > changes is the need for developers at Touk to act as
committers. Because
> > adding committers is done on the basis of merit, and because
there is no
> > basis yet for judging merit on this project, Cliff has advised
us to start
> > over with a new proposal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Proposal to create a C++ version of the Apache XMLBeans project
> >
> >
> >
> > Submission date: 29 March 2006, Allen Brookes, (abrookes @
RogueWave
> > dot-com)
> >
> >
> >
> > (0) rationale
> >
> >
> >
> > Apache currently maintains the XMLBeans/Java project, a tool
that uses XML
> > Schema as a basis for generating Java classes used to easily
access XML
> > instance data. The goal of the XMLBeans/C++ project is to
provide a very
> > similar user experience for C++ developers as that provided by
the
> > XMLBeans/Java version. This includes generating strongly-typed
C++ classes
> > for the XML binding as well as providing low-level C++ APIs
enabling access
> > to the raw, underlying XML content. Where possible, the
XMLBeans/C++ project
> > will provide a nearly identical API and parallel architecture
to that
> > provided by the Java counterpart, and will closely mimic both
features and
> > schedule.
> >
> >
> >
> > The project will be jump started with the contribution of
xmlbeansxx, a
> > partial C++ implementation of XMLBeans from Touk
> > (http://touk.pl/web/en/index.html). Rogue Wave Software
> > will help jump start this project by contributing considerable
expertise in
> > the area of XML data bindings in C++ and C++ expertise in
general.
> >
> >
> >
> > (0.1) criteria
> >
> >
> >
> > Meritocracy: The C++ version of the project should adhere to
the same open,
> > merit-based community standards as other Apache projects.
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions and Core Developers: Code being contributed is
an open source
> > partial implementation of XMLBeans in C++ created by Touk.
> >
> >
> >
> > The community should be able to immediately jump in and begin
work, along
> > side dedicated Touk and Rogue Wave personnel, to turn the initial
> > contribution into a feature-compatible version of XMLBeans for
C++.
> >
> >
> >
> > Community: The community around the Java version of XMLBeans
is already
> > vibrant and growing. There is every reason to believe many of
those within
> > the existing community have experience and/or general interest
in a
> > successful, compatible C++ implementation of the toolset. This
should ensure
> > an immediately active and vocal community, even if the primary
interest is
> > in ensuring a similar experience between versions. The
original contribution
> > for this project has been around for some time and has
generated some
> > interest already.
> >
> >
> >
> > Additionally, at least one member of an existing Apache
project has
> > expressed interest in a project like XMLBeans/C++ to aid in
his current
> > work. Higher-level projects such as Axis for C++ seem to be
natural
> > beneficiaries of this work.
> >
> >
> >
> > (0.2) known risks
> >
> >
> >
> > Orphaned Products: The xmlbeansxx project has been around for
some time now
> > and development has been active throughout this time. There
is every reason
> > to expect that this commitment will continue after the
transition to Apache.
> >
> >
> >
> > Inexperience with Open Source: Rogue Wave has been gaining
experience with
> > open source through the STDCXX, The Apache C++ Standard
Library, currently
> > undergoing incubation. Touk has had experience with open
source through the
> > xmlbeanscxx project.
> >
> >
> >
> > Initial Reliance on Salaried Workers: Due to the rapid process of
> > transitioning to work on the open source XMLBeans/C++ project,
the listed
> > contributors are all inside the commercial realm. We expect
this list of
> > external volunteers to grow significantly after the initial
public code
> > drop.
> >
> >
> >
> > Licensing, Patents, Miscellaneous Legal: Files in the
contributed code are
> > already licensed under the Apache License, Version 2:
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/xmlbeansxx/.
> >
> >
> >
> > (1) scope of the subproject
> >
> >
> >
> > The XMLBeans/C++ subproject will conform to the identical
scope as that laid
> > out for the partner Java project. Special care will be taken
to implement
> > features and add conveniences that would be expected by a C++
developer.
> >
> >
> >
> > (2) identify the initial source for subproject code
> >
> >
> >
> > The initial source for the subproject will be the xmlbeanxx
project from
> > Touk. Some background information may be found on this
product at:
> >
> >
> >
> > Xmlbeansxx home page (http://xmlbeansxx.touk.pl)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > (3) identify the ASF resources to be created (most of these
have already
> > been created)
> >
> >
> >
> > (3.1) mailing list(s)
> >
> >
> >
> > cxx-dev@xmlbeans.apache.org
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > (3.2) SVN repositories
> >
> >
> >
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/xmlbeanscxx/
> >
> >
> >
> > (3.3) Bugzilla
> >
> >
> >
> > The XMLBeans/C++ bug tracking database (key XBC) is in Jira:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XBC
> >
> >
> >
> > (4.0) identify the initial set of committers
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a preliminary list that will be updated with volunteer
members.
> >
> >
> >
> > Allen Brookes (abrookes @ roguewave dot-com)
> >
> > David Haney (david.haney @ roguewave dot-com)
> >
> > Tomasz Wielga (tw @ touk dot-pl)
> >
> > Rafal Rusin (rr @ touk dot-pl
> >
> >
> >
> > (5) identify apache sponsoring individual
> >
> >
> >
> > Cliff Schmidt, of the XMLBeans/Java project, has volunteered
to sponsor this
> > project.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cliff Schmidt (CliffS @ Apache dot-org)
> >
> >
> >
> > (6) open issues for discussion
> >
> >
> >
> > The original code contribution has an API that is very similar
to that of
> > the Java version. However, there are parts of the API that
have not yet
> > been implemented that may be considered essential by users of
the Java
> > version wishing to migrate or co-develop applications.
> >
> >
> >
> > Addressing this deficiency is considered a high priority task
for the C++
> > project.
> >
> >
> >
> > This task is currently underway at Touk and will be continued
after the code
> > has been contributed.
> >
> >
> >
> > The contributed C++ code is based on its own code generator.
It is probably
> > desirable to consolidate both C++ and Java projects under the
same code
> > generator, most likely the one already included in the Java
version of the
> > XMLBeans.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is not considered a priority-1 task at this point, more
of a long term
> > goal and convenience. If it saves time in other priority tasks
it will be
> > looked at closely, however.
> >
> >
> >
> > Platform support
> >
> > Unlike Java, the C++ port will have significant issues around
platform and
> > compiler support. In order to help with this the project will
be using the
> > C++ standard library, and may in fact benefit greatly from
STDCXX, The
> > Apache C++ Standard Library, currently in incubation.
Initially the native
> > StdLib will be used.
> >
> >
> >
> > Good platform support will be very important so even the early
builds should
> > be done on Windows and Linux, and preferably at least one Unix
variety. Long
> > term the matrix should be very large.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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