> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi dev@,
>
> This topic came up on YETUS-445. I'd like to make the case for requiring
> Python 2.7.
>
> As a bit of background, the main offender here is RHEL6. RHEL7 has been out
> for two years and has some penetration, but RHEL6 is still out there and
> supported.
I think I know of maybe two sizable shops that are using RHEL7.
Everyone else is either still on RHEL6 or derivatives. (FWIW: mainly due to
systemd. One company I know of has gone so far to avoid systemd that they
forked from CentOS 6 and are now building their own distributions.)
That also doesn't cover other operating systems... I think Solaris 10
shipped with python 2.6 and it's still very much supported by Oracle. It also
happens to be what the ASF Solaris boxes are running... I think AIX is in a
similar situation.
> My take on it:
>
> * This tool is aimed at release managers, and no one runs RHEL6 on their
> personal dev machine.
*looks at VM running CentOS 6 where he tested the release of Yetus as
the RM and other bits before*
> * Even for build machines, Docker is not supported on RHEL6 (
> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1378023). FWIW, Docker is a requirement
> for building a Hadoop release and used by Hadoop precommit.
That doesn't really matter much. ASF and Hadoop != rest of universe.
We're trying to build something usable by lots of folks here...
> * If you really do need to use RHEL6, you can use conda (
> http://conda.pydata.org/miniconda.html) to install Python 2.7 quite easily.
> I've used it, and it's great.
>
> Thoughts?
The only thing I'm convinced of is that python is still horribly
designed. :) We should rewrite it all in perl5. :)
