I have to say that the entire "my code is bigger than your code" episode in
the Hadoop community should just be considered embarrassing for all
concerned.  That includes the ones who started it, Thomas K who posted a
holier-than-thou (but essentially correct) comment, and Thomas J who posted
a silly put-down in reply.

Let me also save anybody else the breath and say that I have said things at
least as rude as what Thomas J said and at least as naive as what Thomas K.
 I plan to keep on saying both kinds of things, but in smaller quantities.

I think that Thomas Koch has good contributions to make and lots of energy
and lots of fascination with Zookeeper.  That is great, but so far somewhat
less effective than it could be.  If we can help him channel that energy a
bit more, then it will be much, much better.

I also think that Zookeeper has lots of technical debt, partly because we
didn't get to start with a codebase designed for testing.  Paying off debt
is always extremely painful.  We have a payment due.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps we are being too nice when we should be direct. See how a
> similar thread was recently handled on hadoop:
> http://markmail.org/message/qswdx5yuvpsetwis
>
> Patrick
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Camille Fournier <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > He also mentions the need for good judgement, which is a trait you appear
> > to be sorely lacking.
> >
> > From my phone
> > On Nov 2, 2011 5:58 AM, "Thomas Koch" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Martin Fowler wrote a comment yesterday on our recent discussion about
> >> refactoring:
> >>
> >> http://martinfowler.com/bliki/OpportunisticRefactoring.html
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro
> >>
> >
>

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