I don't mean to interrupt the love story of this thread, but I'd like to add a small comment.

It might not be easy to come up with such a list, but in general, it sounds like a good idea to have a set of guidelines, accepted by the community, that we could use to reject contributions. Otherwise, it becomes a matter of taste, which is difficult to manage when we have tens of people contributing. Even though it might be virtually impossible to get rid of taste completely, we need a mechanism that enables us to reject contributions without feeling guilty about doing a disservice to the community. After all, I believe one of our key goals is to maintain a community and to attract valuable contributions, not to push people away without a reason. Any reason we use to reject contributions should ideally be supported by the community and should not be unilateral.

If I'm alone on this thought, then I'm happy to drop it, but otherwise it would be great to hear some thoughts on how to get something like this going. I think we already have some guidelines in the documentation, but if I remember correctly, they are kind of weak with respect to the perspective I'm laying above.

-Flavio

On Nov 2, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote:
...

I also think that Zookeeper has lots of technical debt, partly because we
didn't get to start with a codebase designed for testing. Paying off
debt
is always extremely painful.  We have a payment due.

Ted, no disrespect but put your money where you mouth is, start
reviewing patches if you feel strongly.


Guilty (mostly) as charged.

I have only been able to review a few of the patches. My work schedule is
heinous right now.

Totally understand (I'm in the same boat wrt being overloaded). Hope
you took it in the context I meant it. We can't do hugs through email
-- raincheck for next time we meet f2f. ;-)



So far I've taken the brunt of
doing the reviews from Thomas and the rest of the community is just
getting pissed off by his attitude.


I have also tried to work on this issue. I have met with Thomas in person and provided private coaching (with limited, but non-zero success). I also
have privately mediated some misunderstandings.


It doesn't matter what someones contributions might be, if they can't
work with the community.
http://communityovercode.com/over/


Very true. That is why I have tried to work to help Thomas learn how to work with this community. It isn't all about a snapshot in time; people
can develop new skills.


That's the thing, so far everyone has been trying (incl Thomas) but we
are still seeing friction. Perhaps it's just the limited time
available, pressure to get 3.4.0 out, and non-alignment btw Thomas's
interests and our current goals?

Patrick

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