My take:

- ZK-1863 is pending review. It is a blocker and it can go in. See the jira for 
comments.
- We can try to have ZK-1807 in for the first alpha.
- I'd rather not have the first alpha depending on ZK-1919 and ZK-1910, we can 
leave it for the second alpha.

If you agree with this, then we should be able to cut a candidate by the end of 
this week.

-Flavio

On 15 Jul 2014, at 17:26, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:

> Per my previous note you can now see the c client test log output here
> in the "build artifacts" section:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/job/ZooKeeper-trunk/2372/
> 
> Patrick
> 
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Update: we're back to 8 blockers on 3.5.0 (not clear to me which
>> one(s?) is new?)
>> 
>> Looks like the autoconf issue I reported is hitting the upgraded
>> apache jenkins instances as well. I've updated the "archive" list to
>> include the c tests stdout redirect. So while it won't go to console
>> at least we can debug when there is a failure.
>> 
>> Raul has been helping Bill with reviews for the jetty server support
>> and it looks like that should be ready soon.
>> 
>> Raul also requested that someone prioritize reviewing "ZOOKEEPER-1919
>> Update the C implementation of removeWatches to have it match
>> ZOOKEEPER-1910" so that we can include it in 3.5.0. Flavio/Michi?
>> 
>> Hongchao got a patch in to cleanup the flakey c client reconfig test -
>> kudos on helping cleanup the build/test infra!
>> 
>> 
>> Based on previous comments it looks like we're pretty close. Do folks
>> feel comfortable with a 3.5.0 alpha at this point? (with a few pending
>> as above)
>> 
>> Patrick
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
>> <r...@itevenworks.net> wrote:
>>> On Jul 11, 2014 6:37 AM, "Flavio Junqueira" <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just so that we don´t delay too much, what if we release an alpha version
>>> without 1863 and 1807, and do another one in 2-3 weeks time?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> -rgs
>>> 
>>>> -Flavio
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, July 3, 2014 6:12 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés <
>>> r...@itevenworks.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 July 2014 21:19, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Update: we're down to 7 blockers on 5.1.0 (from 8 in the last check).
>>>>>> 1810 is waiting on feedback from Michi, and Camille is threatening to
>>>>>> commit 1863. I see some great progress in general on the patch
>>>>>> availables queue, which is great to see.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So here's something else we might consider - should we drop jdk6
>>>>>> support from 3.5. It's long since EOL by Oracle but I suspect some
>>>>>> folks are still using ZK with 6. We gotta move forward though, can't
>>>>>> support it forever. Thoughts? Note that we are currently
>>>>>> building/testing trunk against jdk6, 7 and 8.
>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Extra eyes/review for
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1807
>>>>> would be appreciated (otherwise anyone using Observers with the upcoming
>>>>> alpha release will see there network usage go wild...).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -rgs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Flavio Junqueira
>>>>>> <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> According to me, ZK-1810 should be in already, but I need a +1
>>> there. I
>>>>>> think Michi hasn't checked in because LETest failed in the last QA run
>>>>>> there. However, that patch doesn't affect LETest, and in fact it fails
>>> in
>>>>>> trunk intermittently, so the test failure doesn't seem to be related
>>> to the
>>>>>> patch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven't checked ZK-1863, so I can't say anything concrete about it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Flavio
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:53 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio, do you think those jiras can get reviewed/finalized before
>>>>>>>> the end of the week? I'd like to try cutting an RC soonish...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Flavio Junqueira
>>>>>>>> <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +1 for the plan of releasing alpha versions.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to have ZK-1818 (ZK-1810) and ZK-1863 in. They are both
>>> patch
>>>>>> available. ZK-1870 is in trunk, but it is still open because we need a
>>> 3.4
>>>>>> patch.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Flavio
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 26 Jun 2014, at 01:07, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hey folks, we've been talking about it for a while, a few people
>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned on the list as well as contacted me personally that they
>>>>>>>>>> would like to see some progress on the first 3.5 release. Every
>>>>>>>>>> release is a compromise, if we wait for perfection we'll never get
>>>>>>>>>> anything out the door. 3.5 has tons of great new features, lots of
>>>>>>>>>> hard work, let's get it out in a release so that folks can use it,
>>>>>>>>>> test it, and give feedback.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jenkins jobs have been pretty stable except for the known flakey
>>> test
>>>>>>>>>> ZOOKEEPER-1870 which Flavio committed today to trunk. Note that
>>>>>>>>>> jenkins has also been verifying the code on jdk7 and jdk8.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here's my thinking again on how we should plan our releases:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we'll be able to do a 3.5.x-stable for some time.
>>> What I
>>>>>>>>>> think we should do instead is similar to what we did for 3.4.
>>> (this is
>>>>>>>>>> also similar to what Hadoop did during their Hadoop 2 release
>>> cycle)
>>>>>>>>>> Start with a series of alpha releases, something people can run
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> test with, once we address all the blockers and feel comfortable
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the apis & remaining jiras we then switch to beta. Once we get
>>> some
>>>>>>>>>> good feedback we remove the alpha/beta moniker and look at making
>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> "stable'. At some later point it will become the "current/stable"
>>>>>>>>>> release, taking over from 3.4.x.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> e.g.
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.0-alpha (8 blockers)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.1-alpha (3 blockers)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.2-alpha (0 blockers)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.3-beta (apis locked)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.4-beta
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.5-beta
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.6 (no longer considered alpha/beta but also not "stable" vs
>>> 3.4.x,
>>>>>>>>>> maybe use it for production but we still expect things to shake
>>> out)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.7
>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.x - ready to replace 3.4 releases for production use, stable,
>>>>>> etc...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 blockers currently, are any of these something that
>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> hold up 3.5.0-alpha?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'll hold open the discussion for a couple days. If folks find
>>> this a
>>>>>>>>>> reasonable plan I'll start the ball rolling to cut an RC.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 

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