+1 for having an RC this week. Since this is an alpha release, I think 72 biz 
hours is enough for the vote. 

-Flavio

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:ph...@apache.org]
> Sent: 21 July 2014 18:55
> To: DevZooKeeper
> Subject: Re: ZooKeeper 3.5.0-alpha planning
> 
> I fixed a number of issues. I also started a few threads with builds@
> - the ulimit issue is still outstanding. Hongchao and I worked through a
> number of findbugs issues, it's not closed yet but it's pretty close.
> 
> I don't see why we can't create an RC and start voting this week though.
> Anyone disagree?
> 
> How long should we let the vote run, the std 72 biz hours or should we plan
> for more to allow folks more time to test?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
> <r...@itevenworks.net> wrote:
> > On 18 July 2014 10:32, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> You may notice some back/forth on Apache Jenkins ZK jobs - I'm trying
> >> to fix some of the jobs that were broken during the recent host
> >> upgrade.
> >>
> >
> > How are things looking? Is it likely that we can have a 3.5.0 alpha
> > release week or are we still blocked on Jenkins?
> >
> >
> > -rgs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Michi Mutsuzaki
> >> <mi...@cs.stanford.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I'll check in ZOOKEEPER-1683.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Alexander Shraer
> >> > <shra...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> can we also have ZOOKEEPER-1683 in ? Camille gave a +1 and all
> >> subsequent
> >> >> changes were formatting as suggested by Rakesh.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I'm concerned that the CI tests are all failing due to, for e.g.
> >> >>> findbugs issues. At the very least our build/test/ci should be
> >> >>> pretty clean - some flakeys is ok (the recent startServer fix and
> >> >>> some other flakeys that have been addressed go a long way on that
> >> >>> issue) but I think the findbugs problem should be cleaned up
> >> >>> before we cut a release. I started a separate thread to discuss the
> findbugs issue.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Otw we seem to be in ok shape - 1863 is in.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anyone have a chance to give feedback to Raul on 1919?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Patrick
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Flavio Junqueira
> >> >>> <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>> > My take:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > - ZK-1863 is pending review. It is a blocker and it can go in.
> >> >>> > See
> >> the
> >> >>> jira for comments.
> >> >>> > - We can try to have ZK-1807 in for the first alpha.
> >> >>> > - I'd rather not have the first alpha depending on ZK-1919 and
> >> ZK-1910,
> >> >>> we can leave it for the second alpha.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If you agree with this, then we should be able to cut a
> >> >>> > candidate by
> >> the
> >> >>> end of this week.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > -Flavio
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On 15 Jul 2014, at 17:26, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Per my previous note you can now see the c client test log
> >> >>> >> output
> >> here
> >> >>> >> in the "build artifacts" section:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>>
> >> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/job/ZooKeeper-
> trunk
> >> /2372/
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Patrick
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Hunt
> >> >>> >> <ph...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>> Update: we're back to 8 blockers on 3.5.0 (not clear to me
> >> >>> >>> which
> >> >>> >>> one(s?) is new?)
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Looks like the autoconf issue I reported is hitting the
> >> >>> >>> upgraded apache jenkins instances as well. I've updated the
> >> >>> >>> "archive" list
> >> to
> >> >>> >>> include the c tests stdout redirect. So while it won't go to
> >> console
> >> >>> >>> at least we can debug when there is a failure.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Raul has been helping Bill with reviews for the jetty server
> >> support
> >> >>> >>> and it looks like that should be ready soon.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Raul also requested that someone prioritize reviewing
> >> "ZOOKEEPER-1919
> >> >>> >>> Update the C implementation of removeWatches to have it
> match
> >> >>> >>> ZOOKEEPER-1910" so that we can include it in 3.5.0. Flavio/Michi?
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Hongchao got a patch in to cleanup the flakey c client
> >> >>> >>> reconfig
> >> test -
> >> >>> >>> kudos on helping cleanup the build/test infra!
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Based on previous comments it looks like we're pretty close.
> >> >>> >>> Do
> >> folks
> >> >>> >>> feel comfortable with a 3.5.0 alpha at this point? (with a
> >> >>> >>> few
> >> pending
> >> >>> >>> as above)
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Patrick
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
> >> >>> >>> <r...@itevenworks.net> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2014 6:37 AM, "Flavio Junqueira"
> >> >>> <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>> Just so that we don´t delay too much, what if we release an
> >> >>> >>>>> alpha
> >> >>> version
> >> >>> >>>> without 1863 and 1807, and do another one in 2-3 weeks time?
> >> >>> >>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> +1
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> -rgs
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>>> -Flavio
> >> >>> >>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>> On Thursday, July 3, 2014 6:12 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés <
> >> >>> >>>> r...@itevenworks.net> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>> On 2 July 2014 21:19, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>> Update: we're down to 7 blockers on 5.1.0 (from 8 in the
> >> >>> >>>>>>> last
> >> >>> check).
> >> >>> >>>>>>> 1810 is waiting on feedback from Michi, and Camille is
> >> threatening
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> >>>>>>> commit 1863. I see some great progress in general on the
> >> >>> >>>>>>> patch availables queue, which is great to see.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>> So here's something else we might consider - should we
> >> >>> >>>>>>> drop
> >> jdk6
> >> >>> >>>>>>> support from 3.5. It's long since EOL by Oracle but I
> >> >>> >>>>>>> suspect
> >> some
> >> >>> >>>>>>> folks are still using ZK with 6. We gotta move forward
> >> >>> >>>>>>> though,
> >> >>> can't
> >> >>> >>>>>>> support it forever. Thoughts? Note that we are currently
> >> >>> >>>>>>> building/testing trunk against jdk6, 7 and 8.
> >> >>> >>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/S-Z/view/ZooKeeper/
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>> Extra eyes/review for
> >> >>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-1807
> >> >>> >>>>>> would be appreciated (otherwise anyone using Observers
> >> >>> >>>>>> with the
> >> >>> upcoming
> >> >>> >>>>>> alpha release will see there network usage go wild...).
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>> -rgs
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>> Patrick
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Flavio Junqueira
> >> >>> >>>>>>> <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> According to me, ZK-1810 should be in already, but I
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> need a +1
> >> >>> >>>> there. I
> >> >>> >>>>>>> think Michi hasn't checked in because LETest failed in
> >> >>> >>>>>>> the
> >> last QA
> >> >>> run
> >> >>> >>>>>>> there. However, that patch doesn't affect LETest, and in
> >> >>> >>>>>>> fact
> >> it
> >> >>> fails
> >> >>> >>>> in
> >> >>> >>>>>>> trunk intermittently, so the test failure doesn't seem to
> >> >>> >>>>>>> be
> >> >>> related
> >> >>> >>>> to the
> >> >>> >>>>>>> patch.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> I haven't checked ZK-1863, so I can't say anything
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> concrete
> >> about
> >> >>> it.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> -Flavio
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:53 AM, Patrick Hunt <
> >> ph...@apache.org>
> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Flavio, do you think those jiras can get
> >> reviewed/finalized
> >> >>> before
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> the end of the week? I'd like to try cutting an RC
> soonish...
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Patrick
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Flavio Junqueira
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> <fpjunque...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for the plan of releasing alpha versions.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd like to have ZK-1818 (ZK-1810) and ZK-1863 in.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> They are
> >> both
> >> >>> >>>> patch
> >> >>> >>>>>>> available. ZK-1870 is in trunk, but it is still open
> >> >>> >>>>>>> because we
> >> >>> need a
> >> >>> >>>> 3.4
> >> >>> >>>>>>> patch.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> -Flavio
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 26 Jun 2014, at 01:07, Patrick Hunt
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> <ph...@apache.org>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey folks, we've been talking about it for a while, a
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> few
> >> >>> people
> >> >>> >>>> have
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned on the list as well as contacted me
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> personally
> >> that
> >> >>> they
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> would like to see some progress on the first 3.5
> release.
> >> Every
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> release is a compromise, if we wait for perfection
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> we'll
> >> never
> >> >>> get
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> anything out the door. 3.5 has tons of great new
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> features,
> >> >>> lots of
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> hard work, let's get it out in a release so that
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> folks can
> >> use
> >> >>> it,
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> test it, and give feedback.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jenkins jobs have been pretty stable except for the
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> known
> >> >>> flakey
> >> >>> >>>> test
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ZOOKEEPER-1870 which Flavio committed today to
> trunk.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Note
> >> that
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> jenkins has also been verifying the code on jdk7 and
> jdk8.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's my thinking again on how we should plan our
> >> releases:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we'll be able to do a 3.5.x-stable for
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> some
> >> time.
> >> >>> >>>> What I
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> think we should do instead is similar to what we did
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> 3.4.
> >> >>> >>>> (this is
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> also similar to what Hadoop did during their Hadoop 2
> >> release
> >> >>> >>>> cycle)
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Start with a series of alpha releases, something
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> people
> >> can run
> >> >>> >>>> and
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> test with, once we address all the blockers and feel
> >> >>> comfortable
> >> >>> >>>> with
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the apis & remaining jiras we then switch to beta.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Once we
> >> get
> >> >>> >>>> some
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> good feedback we remove the alpha/beta moniker
> and
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> look at
> >> >>> making
> >> >>> >>>> it
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "stable'. At some later point it will become the
> >> >>> "current/stable"
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> release, taking over from 3.4.x.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> e.g.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.0-alpha (8 blockers) 3.5.1-alpha (3 blockers)
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.2-alpha (0 blockers) 3.5.3-beta (apis locked)
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.4-beta 3.5.5-beta
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.6 (no longer considered alpha/beta but also not
> >> "stable" vs
> >> >>> >>>> 3.4.x,
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> maybe use it for production but we still expect
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> things to
> >> shake
> >> >>> >>>> out)
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.7
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ....
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5.x - ready to replace 3.4 releases for production
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> use,
> >> >>> stable,
> >> >>> >>>>>>> etc...
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are 8 blockers currently, are any of these
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> something
> >> that
> >> >>> >>>> should
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> hold up 3.5.0-alpha?
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll hold open the discussion for a couple days. If
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >> find
> >> >>> >>>> this a
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable plan I'll start the ball rolling to cut an RC.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Patrick
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >>

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