+1 FYI - the next release of Curator will drop 3.4.x support. -Jordan
> On Apr 1, 2020, at 11:30 PM, Michael Han <h...@apache.org> wrote: > > +1. > > For EOL policy statement, just to throw something out here that i can think > of: > > * Define what EOL means (such as: not supported by community dev team > anymore, no future 3.4 releases .. still accessible at download page for X > years..) and a date of EOL. > > * Provide guidelines for upgrading paths to 3.5 / 3.6. > > * State interoperability guarantees another post pointed out previously ^ > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:04 AM Andor Molnar <an...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Based on Enrico’s latest post about a 3.4 client problem I’d like to push >> this initiative. >> Asking more senior members of the community what communicated policy is >> needed exactly to say 3.4 is EoL? >> >> In terms of timing I’d like Patrick’s suggestion about 1st of June, 2020. >> >> Any objections? >> >> Andor >> >> >> >> >>> On 2020. Mar 4., at 18:45, Michael K. Edwards <m.k.edwa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> I think it would be useful for an EOL statement about 3.4.x to include a >>> policy on interoperability of newer ZooKeeper servers with 3.4.x client >>> code. Stacks that build on top of Kafka and Hadoop (I'm looking at you, >>> Spark) often wind up having an indirect dependency on a comically stale >>> ZooKeeper library. Even if this library isn't really exercised by the >>> client side of the stack, it's there in the mountain of jars; and when >>> application code also wants to use ZooKeeper more directly, using a newer >>> client library can get kind of messy. The approach I've taken has been >> to >>> rebuild large swathes of the stack around a consistent, recent ZooKeeper >>> build; but I think it would be relevant to a lot of people to know >> whether, >>> say, a 3.4.14 client will work reliably with a 3.6.x quorum. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:28 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Il giorno mer 4 mar 2020 alle ore 17:23 Patrick Hunt >>>> <ph...@apache.org> ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>> It seems like we should have a stated/communicated policy around >> release >>>>> lifecycles before sending an EOL message. That way folks have some >> runway >>>>> to plan for the event, both near term (3.4) as well as long term. >>>> >>>> Shall we set a deadline ? >>>> Something like "3.4 will be EOL by the end of 2020" ? >>>> At this point we are only "discussing" about sending 3.4 to EOL, no >>>> decision has been made yet >>>> >>>> >>>> Enrico >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Patrick >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 5:16 AM Szalay-Bekő Máté < >>>> szalay.beko.m...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Also a minor thing to consider: we wanted to ask the HBase community >> to >>>>>> upgrade to ZooKeeper 3.5 before, and the conclusion there was that >> they >>>>>> will do so only when the EOL will be at least scheduled / announced on >>>> the >>>>>> ZooKeeper 3.4 versions. Maybe there are other ZooKeeper users as well >>>> who >>>>>> will not upgrade until they get 'an official' statement about the 3.4 >>>>>> versions. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:44 PM Jordan Zimmerman < >>>>>> jor...@jordanzimmerman.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm +1 on this. We're planning to drop support for 3.4.x in the next >>>>>>> release of Apache Curator, FYI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Jordan >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> we are releasing 3.6.0 (I am waiting for mirrors to sync before >>>>>>>> updating the website). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In my opinion it is time to officially send 3.4 branch to EOL >>>> status, >>>>>>> that is: >>>>>>>> - we are not expecting new releases >>>>>>>> - drop 3.4 from download area (it will stay on archives as usual) >>>>>>>> - strongly encourage people to update to 3.5/3.6 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3.4 is far away from master branch and even from 3.6. >>>>>>>> There is a clean upgrade path from 3.4.LATEST to 3.5.7 and to 3.6 >>>> so >>>>>>>> users are able to upgrade. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not sure we need a VOTE, if we simply agree I can drop 3.4 >>>> from >>>>>>>> the "dist" are as long as I push the new website. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>> Enrico >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >>
