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Il Gio 9 Apr 2020, 05:28 Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> ha scritto:

> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 2:01 PM Damien Diederen <ddiede...@sinenomine.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Christopher,
> >
> > > I am just curious if anybody has thought about, or perhaps discussed,
> > > the idea that the projects in the zookeeper-contrib folder should be
> > > in their own separate git repos?
> >
> > We were discussing this a few days ago:
> >
> >     https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/pull/1068#issuecomment-607160440
> >
> > My (only) concern was that I wouldn't want to see contribs *even more*
> > abandoned than they are now:
>

Yep
But I'd no one contributes to them it is better to drop them from master.

>
> That's a fair concern. It is always sad to see code get abandoned.
> Moving them out won't solve a "lack of interest" problem. Apache is
> composed of volunteers... and sometimes interest in a project withers.
> But, it can help organize whatever remaining (or future) interest
> there is by decoupling the contrib and presenting it as a smaller,
> more focused project.
>
> >
> > >> While I wouldn't be opposed to moving "unpopular" bindings to their
> > >> own repository, it would probably only make sense to do so if merge
> > >> rules are somewhat relaxed—as I suspect it would otherwise be even
> > >> more difficult to meet the "two PMC approvals" threshold.
>

We need two committers +1, not strictly PMCs.
This is setting the quality of our product,
everything we deliver must have the same level.

Personally I find good to keep the python binding, and maybe to make it a
sibling of the C client inside the zookeeper-clients module.
I saw recent activity on fat-jar.

Other modules seem abandoned so no value for me in keeping them.

Enrico




> That already seems like a pretty high bar to me, even for the main
> project. It's definitely more strict than the other Apache projects
> I've contributed to. I can see how it could be a problem if there is
> diminished interest in these contribs. The PMC would have to decide
> how they want to approach that.
>
> >
> > But whatever the outcome is:
> >
> > >> In any case: I am willing to be automatically marked as a reviewer
> > >> for (at least) the zkperl and zkpython "contribs." Do we have such a
> > >> mechanism? I see that GitHub implements some such mechanisms (1, 2),
> > >> but I'm not sure how applicable they are to our case. Never hesitate
> > >> to ping me manually!
> >
> > > I'm asking because I've been looking a lot at the build, trying to
> > > find ways to improve it, and I think this might be a nice improvement
> > > to streamline the core ZooKeeper build. This can help side-projects
> > > succeed or fail on their own merits, rather than be bound to the core
> > > project so tightly, and it could make it easier for contributors to
> > > know where to contribute, by making each independent component smaller
> > > and easier to navigate through the code.
> >
> > Mostly agree—except that I would subsitute "popularity" for "merits."
> > (Which may or may not change the conclusion.)
>
> Yes, popularity. :)
>
> >
> > Cheers, -D
>

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