On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 06:09:15PM +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> Hey Matthew (and rest of council),
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2025, at 5:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > The Fedora Council overturns FESCo's decision [3284] to remove Proven
> > Packager rights from a contributor.
> 
> The linked issue is private, are there plans to make it public in some
> form or shape so we can see how the process went at the time? 

No, I don't think we'll make the issue public. Among other reasons,
there is a lot of discussion about personal matters. Making it publicly
visible would go against the goal of avoiding making this public.

> > The contributor didn't receive a formal notification or warning
> > from FESCo.
> 
> In the initial announcements about this FESco said that the proven packager
> in question was warned multiple times and had numerous private complaints
> against them. Specifically:
>
> >> Despite several warnings and conversations with FESCo representatives, X
> >> has continued to use his provenpackager privileges in an unapproved manner
> 
> How should we reconcile this? Were there warnings but they weren't 
> "official", or
> were there no warnings and the FESco announcement was incorrect?

The word "formal" is very important here. We never wrote a message
signed by "FESCo", with a specific terms and warnings, etc. There were
two instances of FESCo internally deciding to have one of the members
reach out and have an in-person talk, but those talks could be considered
informal.

Zbyszek
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