Hi Alex,
I also tried both ( file + spool ) to make sure that it wasn't a store
specific issue. Sadly no luck, I switched from store-type = spool to
store-type = file with the same results, and then back again, and still the
issue.

Thanks,
Donald

2009/8/3 Alexander Malysh <[email protected]>

> Hi Donald,
> which type of store you use? I think, you use file?
> please try different store type and then see if it helps.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> Am 02.08.2009 um 10:11 schrieb Donald Jackson:
>
> Hi Nikos,
>
> No its not dependant on queue size and is fairly unpredictable. I see it
> does happen when the SMSC's have some sort of queues built/building, but not
> any specific size.
>
> From the store dump's I did all messages in store are MT-PUSH.
>
> Thanks again,
> Donald
>
> 2009/8/2 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>
>
>>  Hi Donald,
>>
>> A clarification in (2). You are thinking in terms of at driver. I am
>> thinking in terms of queue size. Is Q large and at a certain sixe (i.e.
>> 32768) when problem starts, or it could happen with a small Q as well (i.e.
>> 100). If it is depended on Q size, then it would affect other SMScs as well,
>> and will be at a different point in the code.
>>
>> A last question. Both MO and MT SMS are affected in this state?
>>
>> BR,
>> Nikos
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  *From:* Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
>>  *To:* Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>
>> *Cc:* kannel_dev_mailinglist <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Kannel store issue
>>
>> Hi Nikos,
>>
>> Just to answer your questions.
>>
>> 1) Yes, this is a bearerbox issue, restarts of smsbox / smppbox alike do
>> not effect the store (in this scenario)
>> 2) At this stage unreproducible on demand as it is not one specific modem
>> giving the issue, the message(s) could be destined for any of the given
>> modems but the problem is there are so many modems (250) and its on a remote
>> site so its difficult to pin point, hence trying to solve it 'heuristically'
>> 3) No, the messages stuck in store are completely independent of each
>> other.
>>
>> My suspicion is there is some or other condition (possible race
>> condition?) in the AT driver which causes this scenario and some messages to
>> go 'unacked'. I hope I/we can find a solution as I'm sure there are a number
>> of us struggling with this problem in high volume instances.
>>
>> I am continually looking but I'm thinking 'more eyes' will possibly help
>> quicker.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/8/1 Nikos Balkanas <[email protected]>
>>
>>>  Hi Donald,
>>>
>>> If you are inexperienced with the at driver, I am inexperienced with SMS.
>>> However, I know a lot of kannel's code, and have my suspicions. Since i do
>>> not have any SMSc connections, I hope it is possible to recreate with full
>>> logs in your system. A couple of questions:
>>>
>>> 1) I don't doubt from what you say, that this is a bearerbox issue, but
>>> to be sure, have you tried restarting smsbox only, while in such state, to
>>> see if there is any effect?
>>> 2) From the logs, do you see SMS progressively delaying sent out more and
>>> more, until they stop altogether and stay in queue? In other words is it
>>> fairly reproducible, that this will happen after so many messages, or more
>>> or less unpredictable?
>>> 3) Are there particular messages that are responsible for hogging the
>>> queue, or could it be any message?
>>>
>>> Thanx,
>>> Nikos
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  *From:* Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* kannel_dev_mailinglist <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* Kannel store issue
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I am moving this issue to the devel list to see if we can get any more
>>> insight into it. It appears there are other users (from users list) having
>>> the same issue with no 'user type' resolutions.
>>>
>>> I am running a Kannel installation (cvs-20090721) with roughly 250 AT
>>> (smsc_at.c) SMSC's. The problem I am experiencing is that after some period
>>> of time it appears messages in the bearerbox get stuck in the store. I have
>>> used store-status and Alex's store tools to export the store and they all
>>> look like valid MT-PUSH messages (SMSC-ID is routable, etc).
>>>
>>> The only way (seemlingly) to get these messages out of the store is to
>>> restart the bearerbox, where they are pulled in and sent.
>>>
>>> My understanding of the store is that only messages which are ACK'd on
>>> the SMSC [smsc_at.c / bb_smscconn_sent()] layer are removed from store. I
>>> have not encountered this issue with SMPP binds, so I am presuming this is
>>> related to the smsc_at.c driver. I am very inexperienced with this so I
>>> would be very appreciative if anyone with some experience with the smsc_at.c
>>> driver could possibly provide some insight.
>>>
>>> I was previously running 1.4.3 with the same issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Donald Jackson
>>> http://www.ddj.co.za/
>>> donaldjster(a)gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Donald Jackson
>> http://www.ddj.co.za/
>> donaldjster(a)gmail.com
>>
>>
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