Am 03.10.2012 22:36, schrieb Juan Nin:
Was this ever commited?

Hi Juan,

nop, this never made it's way to the SVN trunk. I'm winding this up right now.

All I'd like to change is the name of the config directive, and use 'dead-start = no' (as default). The term "boot" is something strange to me here, even while I know what Alejandro means of course.

Stipe




On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Juan Nin <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    See attached patch for adding the start-at-boot directive (smsc
    group) to the Kannel User's Guide.
    This was the only missing part so as to get Alejandro Guerrieri's
    start-at-boot patch into the main tree.

    Regards,

    Juan


    On 5/15/11 6:53 AM, Hillel wrote:

        Hi Alejandro,

        Have you been able to commit your start-at-boot patch?

        thanks

        From: Alejandro Guerrieri<aguerrieri@kannel.__org
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        To: Alexander Malysh<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Cc: Kannel Devel<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
        Message-ID:<0357DE26-1F81-__4C34-96E7-078482437284@kannel.__org
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

        Thanks Alex,

        I'll write the userguide part and commit.

        Regards,

        Alex
        --
        Alejandro Guerrieri
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



        On 19/04/2011, at 11:52, Alexander Malysh wrote:

            Hi Alex,

            IMHO this option is not really needed and is only workaround
            about a fact

        that bearerbox

            is unable to reload configuration without restart. But
            reload is much

        bigger implementation as

            this simple "hack". If this "hack" will help much people to
            do cleaner

        configuration now then I'm

            not voting against this feature.

            Alex, please update userguide and commit this patch if
            nobody has any

        objections.

            I'm +0

            Thanks,
            Alexander Malysh

            Am 19.04.2011 um 10:49 schrieb Alejandro Guerrieri:

                For KISS's sake, this doesn't clutter configuration nor
                breaks backwards

        compatibility. It doesn't hurt performance either.

                If you don't want to use it just ignore it completely,
                the default

        behavior if the directive is missing is to start the smsc at
        boot as usual,
        so no harm's done.

                Where do we trace the "absolutely necessary" line is of
                course fuzzy, but

        from what I read seems like other users would find it useful as
        well.

                Regards,
                --
                Alejandro Guerrieri
                [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



                On 19/04/2011, at 05:19, Nikos Balkanas wrote:

                    Hi,

                    wapbox must be kept around because of backwards
                    compatibility, that is a

        must for all open source software. Users are still using it.

                    Finally I would like to add my support for keeping
                    configuration

        explosion in check. Otherwise, what a few people might gain in
        convenience,
        a lot of people might have to pay for it in terms of kannel
        support due to
        more difficult configuration. Some golden rules in configuration
        are:

                    1) KISS
                    2) Don't expand it, unless it is absolutely necessary.

                    Stopping service to modify configuration is a no-no.
                    Commenting a

        configuration file off-line is convenience.

                    My 2 cents,
                    Nikos
                    ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Nin
                    To: Kannel Devel
                    Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 AM
                    Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone


                    That's what we do today, but the idea is not to have
                    to do any "extra"

        work, neither having to comment/uncomment things out, nor have
        to add/remove
        config files.


                    Having the start-at-boot directive allows you to
                    just keep the

        configuration defined, but the smsc does not start.

                    So anytime you need it, you just use the start-smsc
                    and then the

        stop-smsc.

                    This is much cleaner IMHO than having to do all the
                    extra manual work,

        no matter how easy that manual work it may be.


                    A similar discussion was held some months ago, can't
                    remember what new

        directive it was, where the directive was finally added, since
        it was seen
        it was helpful.

                    Not all directives are used by everyone or may be
                    useful for everybody,

        that happens on any piece of software, but does not mean it's
        not useful,
        nor that it should not be added. I don't care about the WAP
        related parts of
        Kannel for example, and that doesn't mean I believe they should
        not exist.
        Adding useful things to Kannel is something that makes Kannel a
        better
        product, so I don't really see why not to add it. Maybe if it
        was something
        complicated that really messed up with the code, could be, but
        this is
        definitely not the case.


                    Just my 2 cents.


                    2011/4/18 Nikos Balkanas<[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>

                    What about the HTTP command start-smsc:

                    It reloads the smsc and starts them from
                    configuration. Therefore you

        could have the smsc commented out at start, then enable it in the
        configuration and start it from the web interface, without
        stooping kannel.
        Is that not adequate?

                    BR,
                    Nikos
                    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Gottgens"

        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

                    To: "Alvaro Cornejo"<cornejo.alvaro@gmail.__com
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    Cc: "Alexander Malysh"<[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>__>; "Kannel Devel"

        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

                    Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:24 PM

                    Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone



                    Hello,

                    i second that. Having the ability to start kannel
                    with some of the binds

        down

                    is so much easier in HA/Failover environments.

                    Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:31:05 PM, you wrote:

                    AC>  Hi Alex

                    AC>  Another use would be when having backup links.
                    I do use over 20

        modems

                    AC>  but not have all enabled at start. In order to
                    not to have to reload
                    AC>  kannel when a new modem is needed, I do start
                    kannel and then stop

        all

                    AC>  the backup modems and I have to do the same
                    whenever I restart

        kannel

                    AC>  or the server

                    AC>  I'll love to have this feature in standard kannel

                    --
                    Best regards,
                    Thomas
                      mailto:[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>











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