Sounds good!

Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Stipe Tolj <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 03.10.2012 22:36, schrieb Juan Nin:
>
>> Was this ever commited?
>>
>
> Hi Juan,
>
> nop, this never made it's way to the SVN trunk. I'm winding this up right
> now.
>
> All I'd like to change is the name of the config directive, and use
> 'dead-start = no' (as default). The term "boot" is something strange to me
> here, even while I know what Alejandro means of course.
>
> Stipe
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Juan Nin <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     See attached patch for adding the start-at-boot directive (smsc
>>     group) to the Kannel User's Guide.
>>     This was the only missing part so as to get Alejandro Guerrieri's
>>     start-at-boot patch into the main tree.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Juan
>>
>>
>>     On 5/15/11 6:53 AM, Hillel wrote:
>>
>>         Hi Alejandro,
>>
>>         Have you been able to commit your start-at-boot patch?
>>
>>         thanks
>>
>>         From: Alejandro Guerrieri<aguerrieri@kannel.__**org
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>**>
>>         To: Alexander Malysh<[email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected]>>
>>         Cc: Kannel Devel<[email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected]>>
>>
>>         Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
>>         Message-ID:<0357DE26-1F81-__**4C34-96E7-078482437284@kannel.**
>> __org
>>         
>> <mailto:0357DE26-1F81-4C34-**[email protected]<[email protected]>
>> >>
>>
>>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>         Thanks Alex,
>>
>>         I'll write the userguide part and commit.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>
>>         Alex
>>         --
>>         Alejandro Guerrieri
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 19/04/2011, at 11:52, Alexander Malysh wrote:
>>
>>             Hi Alex,
>>
>>             IMHO this option is not really needed and is only workaround
>>             about a fact
>>
>>         that bearerbox
>>
>>             is unable to reload configuration without restart. But
>>             reload is much
>>
>>         bigger implementation as
>>
>>             this simple "hack". If this "hack" will help much people to
>>             do cleaner
>>
>>         configuration now then I'm
>>
>>             not voting against this feature.
>>
>>             Alex, please update userguide and commit this patch if
>>             nobody has any
>>
>>         objections.
>>
>>             I'm +0
>>
>>             Thanks,
>>             Alexander Malysh
>>
>>             Am 19.04.2011 um 10:49 schrieb Alejandro Guerrieri:
>>
>>                 For KISS's sake, this doesn't clutter configuration nor
>>                 breaks backwards
>>
>>         compatibility. It doesn't hurt performance either.
>>
>>                 If you don't want to use it just ignore it completely,
>>                 the default
>>
>>         behavior if the directive is missing is to start the smsc at
>>         boot as usual,
>>         so no harm's done.
>>
>>                 Where do we trace the "absolutely necessary" line is of
>>                 course fuzzy, but
>>
>>         from what I read seems like other users would find it useful as
>>         well.
>>
>>                 Regards,
>>                 --
>>                 Alejandro Guerrieri
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On 19/04/2011, at 05:19, Nikos Balkanas wrote:
>>
>>                     Hi,
>>
>>                     wapbox must be kept around because of backwards
>>                     compatibility, that is a
>>
>>         must for all open source software. Users are still using it.
>>
>>                     Finally I would like to add my support for keeping
>>                     configuration
>>
>>         explosion in check. Otherwise, what a few people might gain in
>>         convenience,
>>         a lot of people might have to pay for it in terms of kannel
>>         support due to
>>         more difficult configuration. Some golden rules in configuration
>>         are:
>>
>>                     1) KISS
>>                     2) Don't expand it, unless it is absolutely necessary.
>>
>>                     Stopping service to modify configuration is a no-no.
>>                     Commenting a
>>
>>         configuration file off-line is convenience.
>>
>>                     My 2 cents,
>>                     Nikos
>>                     ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Nin
>>                     To: Kannel Devel
>>                     Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:41 AM
>>                     Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
>>
>>
>>                     That's what we do today, but the idea is not to have
>>                     to do any "extra"
>>
>>         work, neither having to comment/uncomment things out, nor have
>>         to add/remove
>>         config files.
>>
>>
>>                     Having the start-at-boot directive allows you to
>>                     just keep the
>>
>>         configuration defined, but the smsc does not start.
>>
>>                     So anytime you need it, you just use the start-smsc
>>                     and then the
>>
>>         stop-smsc.
>>
>>                     This is much cleaner IMHO than having to do all the
>>                     extra manual work,
>>
>>         no matter how easy that manual work it may be.
>>
>>
>>                     A similar discussion was held some months ago, can't
>>                     remember what new
>>
>>         directive it was, where the directive was finally added, since
>>         it was seen
>>         it was helpful.
>>
>>                     Not all directives are used by everyone or may be
>>                     useful for everybody,
>>
>>         that happens on any piece of software, but does not mean it's
>>         not useful,
>>         nor that it should not be added. I don't care about the WAP
>>         related parts of
>>         Kannel for example, and that doesn't mean I believe they should
>>         not exist.
>>         Adding useful things to Kannel is something that makes Kannel a
>>         better
>>         product, so I don't really see why not to add it. Maybe if it
>>         was something
>>         complicated that really messed up with the code, could be, but
>>         this is
>>         definitely not the case.
>>
>>
>>                     Just my 2 cents.
>>
>>
>>                     2011/4/18 Nikos Balkanas<[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>>
>>                     What about the HTTP command start-smsc:
>>
>>                     It reloads the smsc and starts them from
>>                     configuration. Therefore you
>>
>>         could have the smsc commented out at start, then enable it in the
>>         configuration and start it from the web interface, without
>>         stooping kannel.
>>         Is that not adequate?
>>
>>                     BR,
>>                     Nikos
>>                     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Gottgens"
>>
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]**>>
>>
>>                     To: "Alvaro Cornejo"<cornejo.alvaro@gmail.**__com
>>                     
>> <mailto:cornejo.alvaro@gmail.**com<[email protected]>
>> >>
>>                     Cc: "Alexander Malysh"<[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]**>__>; "Kannel Devel"
>>
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>>
>>                     Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:24 PM
>>
>>                     Subject: Re: useful patches for everyone
>>
>>
>>
>>                     Hello,
>>
>>                     i second that. Having the ability to start kannel
>>                     with some of the binds
>>
>>         down
>>
>>                     is so much easier in HA/Failover environments.
>>
>>                     Monday, April 18, 2011, 8:31:05 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>                     AC>  Hi Alex
>>
>>                     AC>  Another use would be when having backup links.
>>                     I do use over 20
>>
>>         modems
>>
>>                     AC>  but not have all enabled at start. In order to
>>                     not to have to reload
>>                     AC>  kannel when a new modem is needed, I do start
>>                     kannel and then stop
>>
>>         all
>>
>>                     AC>  the backup modems and I have to do the same
>>                     whenever I restart
>>
>>         kannel
>>
>>                     AC>  or the server
>>
>>                     AC>  I'll love to have this feature in standard kannel
>>
>>                     --
>>                     Best regards,
>>                     Thomas
>>                       mailto:[email protected]
>>                     <mailto:[email protected]**>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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