José Antonio wrote:

On 3/1/07, *Zvi Devir* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


    Sorry for jumping ahead, but this something I really don't understand.
    Let's assume that there are currently a few valid US patents on JPEG,
    MJPEG (There are probably more) as well as for MPEG4.2 (xvid divx
    wmv1
    and many more are MPEG4 part 2 implementations). My question is, so
    what? A patent is a territorial legal being -- it is valid only
    where it
    was granted. Even if JPEG is covered by hundreds of active US
    patents,
    and some unenforceable EU patents, it has nothing to do with countries
    in which the OLPCs will be distributed, since those patents are
    invalid
    there.

    [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    > On Tue, February 27, 2007 19:46, José Antonio wrote:
    >> What about Xvid? It is open source and is the better codec in CPU
    >> resources
    >> use and quality...
    >
    > Well, if you are going to use patented codecs, why not just use
    x264. It's
    > better quality than xvid.
    x264 requires more computation power for decoding compared to xvid.


Yes, Xvid requires half computation than any other codec, in my experiences. (using Windows XP, ffdshow+Xvid, Sempron 2800+, mostly to record TV in real time).

With any other codec I reach 100% of frame grab, 640x480, 29,97 fps, RGB, deinterlacing, with 60% of CPU time.

Benjamin Franklin was right: patents sux!

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Yes, but surely the point is *why not use theora and vorbis* ? Shouldn't we be supporting completely free standards wherever they are available ? Several million laptops with ogg theora and vorbis support by default, would provide a lot of leverage.

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