Dne 27.4.2017 v 15:49 Edgar Hoch napsal(a): > I agree - see the last section of my mail. Your approach is better. > > But how do we get this approach to Fedora? Who is responsible for changeing > the package guidelines and changing the packages (possibly even for Fedora > 26?)?
Anybody can bring packaging concerns to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Committee Vít > > > Am 27.04.2017 um 14:57 schrieb Reindl Harald: >> wrong approach >> >> go the systemd way >> >> * distribution only installs to /usr/lib/xdg/autostart >> * /etc/xdg/autostart with the same name to override by admin >> * create a symlink to /dev/null for disable saomething completly >> >> that is all much saner than the .rpmnew / .rpmsave dance >> >> Am 27.04.2017 um 14:52 schrieb Edgar Hoch: >>> I want to start a discussion about xdg autostart. >>> >>> The problem is that system adminstrators should be able to install packages >>> so software is available for users, but they should be able to configure >>> which programs are autostarted on desktop login. >>> >>> Currently, I can modify files in /etc/xdg/autostart, and add a line >>> "Hidden=true" or something like "OnlyShowIn=XFCE;", or I can remove files >>> in this directory. But after an update of the package this file belongs to >>> the file is overwritten with the original file of the package, so my >>> changes are lost >>> >>> For example, in our university environment I don't want to autostart >>> services like syncevo-dbus-server.desktop tracker-extract.desktop >>> tracker-miner-apps.desktop tracker-miner-fs.desktop >>> tracker-miner-rss.desktop tracker-miner-user-guides.desktop >>> tracker-store.desktop zeitgeist-datahub.desktop at all as a default for all >>> users (users can change it for themselfs), and services like >>> baloo_file.desktop firewall-applet.desktop gnome-software-service.desktop >>> kdeconnectd.desktop sealertauto.desktop syncevo-dbus-server.desktop >>> tracker-extract.desktop tracker-miner-apps.desktop tracker-miner-fs.desktop >>> tracker-miner-rss.desktop tracker-miner-user-guides.desktop >>> tracker-store.desktop xpad.desktop xscreensaver-autostart.desktop >>> zeitgeist-datahub.desktop should not start when using GNOME. >>> >>> The problem is that non (?) of the packages declare files in >>> /etc/xdg/autostart as %config(noreplace). But in practice these files are >>> configuration files. >>> >>> There should be any mechanism for administators to change the default of >>> autostarting desktop services systemwide for all and for specific desktops. >>> One possibility would be not to overwrite these files on package updates. >>> >>> A better solution would be to store system defaults in /usr (for example, >>> in /usr/share/xdg/autostart), and let /etc free for administrator purposes, >>> as it was designed for systemd in /etc/systemd/system - where I can >>> overwirte systemd services, or disable them all. Moreover better would be a >>> command line interface (and a _working_ graphical interface) to configure >>> autostart services systemwide and for individual users > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
