On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 11:52:21AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/08/2017 11:28 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> > On 12/08/2017 05:17 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >> On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 10:59:20AM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/08/2017 10:12 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>>> How would the overhead be lower? Instead of a single clean commit that
> >>>> does what needs to be done you want the person doing this cleanup on a
> >>>> hundred packages to send you a special message and wait while you make
> >>>> the decision whether to allow a three line change or not? Please explain.
> >>> Who determines "needs to be done" Shouldn't the owner of the package be in
> >>> on the determination, with silents being acceptance after a certain amount
> >>> of time? I think so.
> >>
> >> This is completely infeasible to contact each maintainer individually
> >> when doing massive changes. The policy specifies that the mass change
> >> should be pre-announced, discussed, and announced on the mailing list.
> >> This procedure was followed, the changes are simple and correct.
> My apologies for not making myself clear... I understand the
> need to make massive changes... The problem I have is a single
> change is made because it "feels" right... Those changes need to
> go by the maintainer.
> 
> >>
> >>> Yes to your second question... For one reason... maintaining stability.
> >>> You give people the ability to change anything and everything they
> >>> want w/out any review... that is called instability... 
> >>
> >> No, those changes don't have any effect on the way that your package
> >> operates, they just change the reference from an obsolete name to
> >> one that actually exists. Without such changes we would have more
> >> and more obsolete cruft in packages. It's great that somebody is willing
> >> to spend their time keeping the distro tidy. Change, if done carefully,
> >> does not mean instability.
> > 
> > I wholeheartedly agree with Zbyszek here. Well said.
> I too agree WRT massive build and/or changes... but anything
> else need to go through them maintainer. 

Well, it _is_ a massive change: ignatenkobrain is removing references
to systemd-units. According to repoquery, in F26 there are 369
packages with R: systemd-units. I'd say that 369 qualifies as "mass".

Zbyszek
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