I've submitted https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stop_pulling_dependencies_for_static_libraries to improve the situation.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:57 PM Igor Gnatenko < ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:19 PM Robert Marcano <rob...@marcanoonline.com> > wrote: > >> On 08/12/2018 02:07 PM, JD wrote: >> > What about dependencies of dependencies? Have you thought of that? >> >> Sorry, I don't get the question, these are devel packages, not runtime >> libraries, these dependencies of dependencies are already pulled if I >> install gtk3, but code that only links with GTK3, only needs gtk3-devel >> to be built, the others devel packages are only needed if my code links >> to them directly. >> > > You intentionally (or not) didn't reply to my comment on this. Just look > into gtk+-3.0.pc: > Requires: gdk-3.0 atk >= 2.15.1 cairo >= 1.14.0 cairo-gobject >= 1.14.0 > gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.30.0 gio-2.0 >= 2.49.4 > Requires.private: atk atk-bridge-2.0 wayland-client >= 1.9.91 > wayland-protocols >= 1.12 xkbcommon >= 0.2.0 wayland-cursor >= 1.9.91 > wayland-egl epoxy >= 1.0 pangoft2 gio-unix-2.0 >= 2.49.4 > > All those wayland and xkb stuff is needed only if you link to gtk > statically. But since we don't ship static library, no one can use it > anyway → those requirements are useless. > > The problem here is that they are auto-generated and I've proposed to > improve that. > > >> > >> > On 08/12/2018 11:07 AM, Robert Marcano wrote: >> >> On 08/12/2018 12:46 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> >>> Robert Marcano wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> And thinking about it, a lot *-devel packages interdependencies >> should >> >>>> be Recommends and not Requires >> >>> >> >>> You keep saying this, I'd like to see some evidence to support that. >> >> >> >> Example below. why do I need all these dependencies, when I only link >> >> directly with gtk3 widgets? some of those are only there because gtk >> >> links against them and maybe I will link with them too, but some are >> >> so low level that doesn't make sense. >> >> >> >> I should be able, for example, to build a very small container image >> >> that only contains the devel packages I really link with, to use on my >> >> builders (using install_weak_deps=False or any other solution). >> >> >> >> But anyways, these are only ideas to help reduce the chance of people >> >> overlinking. Maybe I am wrong on liking less implicit dependencies >> >> when installing devel packages. >> >> >> >>> # dnf install gtk3-devel >> >>> Last metadata expiration check: 0:42:52 ago on Sun 12 Aug 2018 >> >>> 12:11:09 PM -04. >> >>> Dependencies resolved. >> >>> >> ======================================================================================================== >> >> >>> >> >>> Package Arch >> >>> Version Repository Size >> >>> >> ======================================================================================================== >> >> >>> >> >>> Installing: >> >>> gtk3-devel x86_64 >> >>> 3.22.30-1.fc28 fedora 4.4 M >> >>> Installing dependencies: >> >>> at-spi2-atk-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.26.2-1.fc28 fedora 18 k >> >>> at-spi2-core-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.28.0-1.fc28 fedora 142 k >> >>> atk-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.28.1-1.fc28 fedora 191 k >> >>> bzip2-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.0.6-26.fc28 fedora 223 k >> >>> cairo-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.15.12-2.fc28 updates 271 k >> >>> cairo-gobject-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.15.12-2.fc28 updates 24 k >> >>> cmake-filesystem x86_64 >> >>> 3.11.2-1.fc28 updates 38 k >> >>> dbus-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1:1.12.10-1.fc28 updates 65 k >> >>> expat-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.2.5-3.fc28 fedora 54 k >> >>> fontconfig-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.13.0-4.fc28 updates 144 k >> >>> freetype-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.8-10.fc28 fedora 453 k >> >>> fribidi-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.0.2-1.fc28 updates 30 k >> >>> gdk-pixbuf2-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.36.12-1.fc28 fedora 221 k >> >>> graphite2-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.3.10-5.fc28 fedora 44 k >> >>> harfbuzz-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.7.5-3.fc28 fedora 180 k >> >>> libX11-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.6.5-7.fc28 fedora 985 k >> >>> libXau-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.0.8-11.fc28 fedora 19 k >> >>> libXcomposite-devel x86_64 >> >>> 0.4.4-12.fc28 fedora 21 k >> >>> libXcursor-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.1.15-1.fc28 fedora 28 k >> >>> libXdamage-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.1.4-12.fc28 fedora 14 k >> >>> libXext-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.3.3-8.fc28 fedora 79 k >> >>> libXfixes-devel x86_64 >> >>> 5.0.3-5.fc28 fedora 18 k >> >>> libXft-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.3.2-8.fc28 fedora 24 k >> >>> libXi-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.7.9-6.fc28 fedora 110 k >> >>> libXinerama-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.1.3-10.fc28 fedora 18 k >> >>> libXrandr-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.5.1-5.fc28 fedora 25 k >> >>> libXrender-devel x86_64 >> >>> 0.9.10-5.fc28 fedora 21 k >> >>> libXxf86vm-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.1.4-7.fc28 fedora 23 k >> >>> libdrm-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.4.93-1.fc28 updates 142 k >> >>> libepoxy-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.5.2-1.fc28 updates 141 k >> >>> libglvnd-core-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1:1.0.1-0.7.git5baa1e5.fc28 updates 23 k >> >>> libglvnd-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1:1.0.1-0.7.git5baa1e5.fc28 updates 15 k >> >>> libglvnd-opengl x86_64 >> >>> 1:1.0.1-0.7.git5baa1e5.fc28 updates 47 k >> >>> libicu-devel x86_64 >> >>> 60.2-2.fc28 fedora 920 k >> >>> libpng-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2:1.6.34-6.fc28 updates 326 k >> >>> libuuid-devel x86_64 >> >>> 2.32.1-1.fc28 updates 91 k >> >>> libxcb-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.13-1.fc28 fedora 1.1 M >> >>> libxkbcommon-devel x86_64 >> >>> 0.8.0-5.fc28 updates 59 k >> >>> mesa-libEGL-devel x86_64 >> >>> 18.0.5-3.fc28 updates 47 k >> >>> mesa-libGL-devel x86_64 >> >>> 18.0.5-3.fc28 updates 173 k >> >>> pango-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.42.3-1.fc28 updates 320 k >> >>> pixman-devel x86_64 >> >>> 0.34.0-8.fc28 updates 19 k >> >>> wayland-devel x86_64 >> >>> 1.15.0-1.fc28 fedora 145 k >> >>> wayland-protocols-devel noarch >> >>> 1.14-1.fc28 updates 69 k >> >>> xorg-x11-proto-devel noarch >> >>> 2018.4-1.fc28 fedora 282 k >> >>> >> >>> Transaction Summary >> >>> >> ======================================================================================================== >> >> >>> >> >>> Install 46 Packages >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> -- Rex >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> >>> Fedora Code 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