On Fri, 2018-09-07 at 05:06 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 2:52 AM, Robin Lee <cheese...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > What does it mean for 'Fedora' Flatpaks? > > > > - Flatpaks that run on a Fedora runtime? Then, what's the benifit to > > > > use Fedora runtime instead of freedesktop ones? > > > > - Flatpaks that maintained by Fedora community? Then, why not > > > > encourage people to contribute to Flathub directly? > > What is meant here is "a runtime and Flatpaks built out of the Fedora RPMs on > Fedora infrastructure". That's *very* nice & something I have been calling for basically from day one with flatpacks. Not everyone wants to become a release engineer & build all the dependencies of their application by hand, especially whenall this is already available via RPM packages in Fedora. :) BTW, it is (at least) to me not really apparent from the original email that we (finally!) have the Fedora Flatpak runtimes availble for use. > Some advantages this has over building and using Flatpaks on Flathub: > > - In most cases, it's easier to create a Flatpak from an existing RPM rather > than creating a flatpak-builder manifest > from scratch. > - We're able to reuse the Fedora updates infrastructure and automate > rebuilding and releasing Flatpaks and the > runtime for security or other bug fixes Is there a listing of what is already part of the Fedora runtime ? I tried cliking about in the linked documentation, but was not able to find it. Also, how long will the runtimes be supported by security fixes ? I guess just as long as the corresponding Fedora releases, or maybe longer ?
> - Applications with complicated build dependencies are easier to handle. Any > RPM in Fedora can be used as a build- > time dependency. Only run-time dependencies that aren't already in the > runtime need to be rebuilt and bundled, and > even there it's a mostly automatic process. > > > (On the other hand, for an upstream application developer who knows nothing > about RPMs and specfiles and so forth, and > just wants to create a Flatpak of their application, flatpak-builder and > Flathub is likely more attractive than > creating a Flatpak via Fedora packaging.) > > It's not exclusive - you can use Flatpaks from Flathub and from this effort > together - even on a non-Fedora system. > And, of course, you can contribute to both Fedora and Flathub! Do I understand things correctly that Flatpaks built for Fedora should still work fine on other distros such as say Debian, ArchLinux or even CentOS ? I guess the user adds the Fedora generated Flatpak repo,this pulls in the Fedora runtime (and keeps it updated) and then installs the corresponding Flatpak and all just works seamlessly ? > Owen > > > > _______________________________________________devel mailing list -- > devel@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send > an email to devel-leave@lists.fedoraproject.orgFedora Code of Conduct: > https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.htmlList > Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelinesList > Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
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