Dne 17.9.2018 v 09:48 Haïkel napsal(a):
> Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 08:12, Mattia Verga <mattia.ve...@yandex.com> a écrit 
> :
>>> Le dim. 16 sept. 2018 à 11:27, Fabio Valentini <decathorpe(a)gmail.com&gt; 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> The policy mention that you have to try contacting the maintainer
>>> *first*, you never sent me an email or pinged me on irc.
>>> I don't like this kind of passive-aggressive approach, had you
>>> contacted me, we would have sorted this out quickly, co-maintainers
>>> are welcome.
>>>
>>> One more thing, when you want to contact someone in the project =>
>>> <username&gt;(a)fedoraproject.org should always work.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> H.
>>>
>> Trying to contact the maintainer directly before opening the unresponsive 
>> maintainer policy and reply to bugs via email is right, BUT I would expect 
>> bugzilla to be the first contact point and so maintainers should respond in 
>> bugzilla first, not via email.
>>
>> Sometimes a "bug aknowledge, but it's in low priority list" message can keep 
>> users calm...
>>
>> Mattia
> (On the policy)
>
> Yes, first attempt should be through bugzilla, but we are human
> beings, so it happens that a direct ping is necessary.

Haïkel, you might be upset that somebody calls you "Possibly
non-responsive", but frankly, if the message from Fabio was
passive-aggressive to you, then I am not sure you did better job then he
did (especially in the "we are human beings" context).

Vít


> The policy may be subject to interpretation, but it hints that this
> process should be used when you *cannot* reach the maintainer.
> If you have time to mail the list, you have time to mail the person first.
>
> "and asks if anyone knows how to contact the maintainer." => It's
> crystal clear (to me at least) that it assumes that you could not
> reach the
> maintainer through the email registered in FAS (we used to have
> regular pings from the system to verify that users are still
> monitoring these).
>
> If you want access to a package that I happen to be a "Point of
> Contact" (which is semantically different that owner and it's on
> purpose), just ask.
> Nobody owns anything in Fedora.
>
> Regards,
> H.
>
>
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