Josh Boyer (jwbo...@fedoraproject.org) said: 
> > > If 7 years is what manufacturers really want, then it sounds like
> > > CentOS is much better positioned to be get shipped on laptops than
> > > Fedora. Instead of working on a new "Fedora LTS" for this usage case,
> > > would time be better spent improving EPEL and CentOS for the
> > > desktop/laptop use case? I'd always thought of CentOS/RHEL as "Fedora
> > > LTS" anyway, to be honest.
> >
> > The point of a Fedora LTS for these manufacturers, if it were to exist,
> > is to give them a channel to partner with, work on support with, and
> > a software base they can get needed changes into.
> 
> Agreed.  Fedora is well positioned to do that.  In fact, it's well
> positioned for the manufacturers themselves to get their software
> changes in as well.  I think there is an opportunity here for both
> sides that's worth looking at.
> 
> > AFAIK, CentOS isn't set up to accept changes (into the base repo) or
> > provide that level of support. And if they wanted to do it with Red Hat
> > at the RHEL level... presumably they would already be doing so.
> 
> That would presume a lot more as well.  Do both parties want to pursue
> that market?  Do both parties get benefits from it?  Are the
> development models and support terms structured in a way that
> facilitates that?  Even if we assume an answer of "yes" for all of
> those things and RHEL is pursuing it, that doesn't mean Fedora cannot
> or should not, right?

No, it doesn't mean Fedora can't do that. My main point is that I don't
see any situations where those answers are all 'yes' for CentOS, so I don't
think trying to position CentOS for this makes sense.... it either makes
sense for RHEL, or for Fedora (or for both).

Bill
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