On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:48 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 27. 06. 19 18:49, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:06 PM Miro Hrončok <mhron...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> So I might ask: What's the benefit of not having an unversioned python
> at all?
> >>
> > Avoiding ambiguity. Admittedly, it's avoiding large future pain at the
> > cost of small-and-frequent current pain. I'm not sure it's Fedora's
> > place to drive that mindset shift, particularly if upstream is taking
> > the opposite approach.
>
> To be fair, upstream allows us to choose. If we decide that we want
> "python"
> command not to exists, it's a valid choice.
>
> As Python maintainers, we want to make it python3. If Fedora decides that
> removing it is a better way, we have the ability to do that.
>
> I'd argue that it brings more problems. Such as: Should there also be no
> "pip",
> no "pytest", no "pylint"... command? Or should we switch those to Python
> 3, but
> just have no "python" command? What happens if users do "dnf install
> python"?
> Should they get Python 3 or nothing? etc.
>
> Either way, we really **need** "python" to no longer be Python 2. There
> are
> still people "out there" who call Python 2 the "default Python" because
> that's
> what you get when you type "python".
>

As an outsider to the Python community, not having any binary or package
that responds to the expected name "python" would be a disaster.

-Dan
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