On Fri, 2020-12-04 at 16:11 +0100, Marius Schwarz wrote:
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>     Hi,
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>     as you may have heared, Fedora is now running on Pinephone and other
>     devices, that need bleeding edge versions to function.
Are bleeding edge of all packages needed ? If not I wonder if just budiling 
what needs to be bleeding edge in a COPR
overlay on top of a stable release would work. This would give you a stable 
base to work on and a lot of control over
what goes on top of it, including downgrading packages and applying custom 
not-yet-upstream patches.
You could of course at the same time make sure all the bits and pieces land in 
Rawhide, so that when you switch your
COPR overlay baseline to the next Fedora stable release, less custom package 
versions are needed. Rinse and repeat until
no overlay packages are needed. :)
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>     Status of Fedora Pine as of 15:15 CET
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>     Cams now working, but app needs rework
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>     Mobile INET working
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>     WIFI working
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>     Touch working
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>     SMS working
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>     GPS working
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>     Calls partly, "calls app" does not connect to pulseaudio. 
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>     Headphones ( sort of )
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>     Mali400 GPU support working ( MPV rulez )
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>     and with Gnome(38) instead of Phosh..  no window problems! Big
>     Thanks to nikhiljha and his copr repo. 
Nice, very good progress! :)
I really need to try the latest Fedora image on my Pinephone when I have some 
time. :)
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>     O== my request
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>     In the last 3 days alone several updates ( i.e. bind-libs,
>     gnome-shell 40~alpha ) caused a lot of bugs and needed to be
>     downgraded directly from koji, 
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>     by first finding & downloading them with wget ( because of the
>     slow wifi and dependency checks, direct http links work ofcourse ),
>     and later downgraded with 
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>     dnf, which is so to speak, a pain in the ass. Of course, the best
>     way to handle it would be, if the os compenents came from stable
>     repos, so that these problems do not happen. But as i said, bleeding
>     edge is needed atm. 
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>     Is it possible to keep at least the last version of a package around
>     in rawhide repo, to make dnf downgrade work? That would ease a lot
>     of this pain. 
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>     I know that there is a native koji tool to handle rawhide, but i
>     must say, that won't work in most cases. Let me explain:
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>     Pine has announced to open stores in the US and Canada, because of
>     the huge amount of requests for a pinephone. As it looks, this
>     phone, as cheap as it compontants are, fills a gap of some kind.
>     Therefor we will have much more user using it, and (i hope i can
>     help with it) will use Fedora with Gnome-Shell. 
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>     Phosh is more like Android, it has it charm, but tbh I, and people I
>     showned it to,  love they way gnome-shell handles stuff. 
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>     We "may" get them to downgrade stuff with dnf, but that needs to be
>     as simple as it could. 
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>     best regards,
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>     Marius Schwarz
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