On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 13:07, Peter Boy <p...@uni-bremen.de> wrote:
>
> We had a spirited and detailed discussion so far. But nevertheless, I think
> we are none the wiser at the moment. We have many informative contributions
> to the discussion and analyses of the situation.
>
> However, we lack concepts on how to proceed after removing java-maint-sig.
> What consequences do we draw from the analyses?
>
> Emmanuel Seyman has made some suggestions, about 16 posts back. Thoughts on
> those? I posted on the java list some ideas some time ago ('Empowering Fedora
> Javaβ). Any comments on those?
>
>
>
Like many Open Source projects, Fedora is a "do-ocracy" -- those who
step up to do the work win the responsibility of getting it done. If
you have a clear goal in mind, just go for it.
As I said before there's always a lot of discussion from people who,
in the end, never get involved. And then there are people who are
quietly working away and Getting Things Doneβ’ without the need for
endless discussion. A good example is Nicolas De Amicis who recently
stepped up to revive SWT because he really cares about openjfx in
Fedora and SWT was a dependency. And that is awesome; it is the
do-ocracy in action! Picking a goal you care about and setting about
achieving it doesn't require a SIG, it requires you to "do."
So, do you have any specific, concrete goal you want to achieve? If
the removal of a Java package has affected you directly or a Java
application you care about is in danger of being removed that would be
a excellent place to start.
--
Mat Booth
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
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