Hi Kevin,

Personally, I think this is a beta requirement.
>

 IIUC the Fedora 41 Beta requirement is to successfully upgrade the system
from Fedora 40, as mentioned here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_dnf_current_workstation.
So this still relates to the dnf4 package, which is used in Fedora 40. I
expect this will become relevant for dnf5 at the Fedora 42 Beta.

So, how do you rate the chances of having something ready by beta
> freeze?
>

Talking about "something", there's already a system-upgrade command
available in this dnf5 version from the side-tag :) However, as I mentioned
earlier, it hasn't been thoroughly tested yet; that's our goal for the
upcoming months.

Regards,
Jan

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:55 PM Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:42:57AM GMT, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> > Hello Michael,
> >
> > Does this mean that distro-upgrade from F41 to F42 is supposed to work
> > > at F41 release time (ideally at beta time)?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, the system-upgrade functionality should be available before the
> Fedora
> > 41
> > release date. We're planning extensive testing for this, including a
> Fedora
> > Testing Day.
>
> Personally, I think this is a beta requirement.
>
> Lots of people upgrade around then to get on the new release, and also
> having it available to test then is pretty important.
>
> Thats just my opinon... QE might have different opinions.
>
> > While our goal is to deliver the final system-upgrade functionality
> before
> > the stable release,
> > some adjustments may be made during the Fedora 41 lifecycle to ensure
> > smoother
> > upgrades from F41 to F42. Before executing the system-upgrade, users are
> > anyway
> > advised to ensure that all installed packages are fully updated.
>
> So, how do you rate the chances of having something ready by beta
> freeze?
>
> kevin
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