Ian Pilcher <arequip...@gmail.com> writes:

> On 7/13/24 4:32 AM, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
>> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbys...@in.waw.pl> writes:
>>>>> The idea for DRM_PANIC is nice, but I worry about the impact of disabling
>>>>> VT_CONSOLE. Plymouth is not used everywhere, e.g. what about cloud images
>>>>> and such? Also, when debugging boot troubles, removing 'rhbg' and 'quiet'
>>>>> are the often first steps.
>>>>>
>> 
>> I would expect that in these cases the user has access to a serial console
>> to get the kernel log output. Or it's a common case to read the kernel log
>> messages on cloud instances over VT/fbcon ?
>
> Why in the world would you expect this?
>
> It's been years (decades?) since most PCs have had a serial port.
> Expecting people to have (or buy) and set up additional hardware in
> order to troubleshoot boot issues is a terrible change, IMO.
>

I was referring to the cloud image that were mentioned in this thread to
not install Plymouth. Is that also the case for the Fedora server image ?

-- 
Best regards,

Javier Martinez Canillas
Core Platforms
Red Hat

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