On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 03:35:06PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> Can we go ahead in time and let kevin to create the gdm-x11 package? We
> already know how this is going to be:
> 
> - The SIG is going to say they don't have bandwidth, hands or time to
> support tickets with problems for x11
> - Kevin and a lot of us that still use X11 are going to say that this
> change is Fedora specific not upstream
> - The SIG is going to say that they don't block
> - The whole conversation is going too FESCo
> - FESCo is going to rule that the SIG can't block anyone to do what FLOSS
> is supposed to be.
> - Packages are going to be done and added.

Yes, that sounds like an accurate description of how things would have gone,
had somebody started the process! But it seems that this window has
closed already, because of the decision to release F42 on Thursday. Reverting
the changes in Gnome would have required a respinning of the release
images and a delay of the release. I don't think we'd want to do that.
But even apart from that, even if this was raised sooner,
I would be against such a big change so late in the process anyway.

Two options have been floated:
- a separate gdm-x11 package: certainly an option, but a bit of work,
  and upstream might drop the X11 code anyway.
- switching to a different login manager. I think this option is better
  and has better long-term prospects. Folks who use X11 should make
  a recommendation what to switch to.

Zbyszek
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