On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:19 AM Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 5:52 PM Chris Adams <li...@cmadams.net> wrote:
> >
> > Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@redhat.com> said:
> > > On Wed, May 28 2025 at 03:19:49 PM -05:00:00, Chris Adams
> > > <li...@cmadams.net> wrote:
> > > >So it's been another month and this still isn't resolved.  I know
> > > >people
> > > >on the Fedora side have been trying (don't want to complain about
> > > >effort).  But if Fedora can't reliably get timely updates to a package
> > > >that has high security implications, it should NOT be enabled by
> > > >default, or even shipped by Fedora at all.
> > >
> > > Well you're not wrong. The risk level here is considerable.
> > >
> > > But without this package, users can't play videos, and there's
> > > nothing we can do about that other than point to RPM Fusion and hope
> > > they can figure out how to get what they need from there, which is
> > > not easy. So the consequences of dropping it are also considerable.
> > > Rock and hard place and all that.
> >
> > This package is for playing one particular encoding of videos (and only
> > certain profiles of that encoding from what I understand).  There's also
> > nothing preventing Fedora from pointing users to Cisco's site to get
> > their provided binaries.
> >
> > There are always decisions between security and convenience, and Fedora
> > has typically gone for security (e.g. things like continually raising
> > the crypto policies).  Leaving desktop users open to a high-rated CVE
> > for three months (and counting), in the name of convenience, is rather
> > bad IMHO.
>
> Honestly, we don't really push for security like that. We have
> generally provided optionality, but that doesn't mean we want security
> to outweigh our community and usability.

I wanna get that in writing from, let's say,
 somebody with write access to
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/

> The crypto policies is an example of the problems
> caused by pushing security above everything
> else, as we wound up with several releases in a row of the package
> manager being broken because RPM could no longer verify Google
> Chrome's GPG keys (among other things).

That's not how I remember things, like, at all.
Which *released* versions did the change ship in?
FeSCO said to revert for F38 (https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2960), we did.
That particular security issue stays unfixed to date.
Was there more to it that I don't remember?

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