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* TOPIC: Init Process (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:00:36)
* TOPIC: #3462 Change: Man-DB cache directory change (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
17:11:28)
* AGREED: Proposal is rejected for F43 (+6, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
17:16:35)
(The proposal is not very clear and it is late to try to implement it in
F43.
Owners are welcome to clarify and resubmit for f44.)
* TOPIC: 389 Directory Server 3.2.0 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:19:24)
* INFO: Change does not appear to have been implemented.
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:25:46)
* ACTION: sgallagh to reach out to 389 and FreeIPA teams for info
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:25:57)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Spins by default
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:26:25)
* INFO: This is believed to be complete, but the ticket needs updating.
FESCo will reach out to the change owner (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
17:29:10)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Automated onboarding to Packit release
automation for new packages (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:29:51)
* AGREED: Dropped from Fedora 43 (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:32:57)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Build Fedora CoreOS using Containerfile
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:33:11)
* LINK: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-key-tasks.html
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:37:06)
* AGREED: Accept it so long as it's in production in time for the first F43
Beta Go/No-Go decision on 2025-09-11.
Otherwise it is deferred to F44. (+5, 0, -0)
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:52:35)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: CMake 4.0 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:53:01)
* AGREED: Reassign to F44 (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:54:31)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: CMake: Use ninja generator by default
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:54:46)
* AGREED: Reassign to F44 (+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:55:52)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Compress the initrd with zstd by default
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:56:01)
* INFO: Change was moved to ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:56:40)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Confidential Virtualization Host for Intel TDX
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 17:56:56)
* AGREED: FESCo will permit this to land after Beta Freeze but must land
before Final Freeze. (+6, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:01:57)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Deprecate The Gold Linker (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
18:02:10)
* INFO: This is landed and the ticket has now been moved to ON_QA
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:02:51)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Deprecate YASM (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:03:11)
* INFO: Ticket has been moved to ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:03:44)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Disablement of STI tests (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
18:03:59)
* INFO: Ticket has been moved to ON_QA (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:04:30)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: DNF/RPM Copy on Write enablement for all
variants (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:04:56)
* AGREED: the change is dropped. Owners are welcome to resubmit when ready.
(+5, 0, -0) (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:07:15)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Dropping of cert.pem file (@sgallagh:fedora.im,
18:07:30)
* AGREED: Allow them to land the revert during Beta Freeze (+5, 0, -0)
(@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:09:34)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Enable auto-updates by default in Fedora
Kinoite (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:10:43)
* INFO: Lacking sufficient information, we're deferring this decision to
next week (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:14:56)
* TOPIC: F43 Incomplete Change: Erlang 27 (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 18:15:08)
* AGREED: Lacking sufficient information, we're deferring this decision to
next week (+6, 0, 0) (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:21:11)
* TOPIC: GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 15.2, binutils 2.45, glibc 2.42, gdb 17.1)
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:21:18)
* INFO: The ticket is marked as ON_QA. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:21:41)
* TOPIC: Hardlink identical files in packages by default (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:22:02)
(This was moved to f44. Not sure why the INFO got lost.)
* TOPIC: Hare Programming Language (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:22:23)
* AGREED: the change can land before the final freeze (+5, 0, 0)
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:25:56)
* TOPIC: LLVM 21 (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:26:19)
* INFO: The late delivery of this change was planned, so we're waiting
fornow. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:27:17)
* TOPIC: mkosi-initrd (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:28:05)
* INFO: The change has been moved to f44. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:28:21)
* TOPIC: Modernize Live Media (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:28:30)
* INFO: The owner requested the change to be moved to f44.
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:28:46)
* TOPIC: Package builds are expected to be reproducible (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:28:57)
* INFO: Change owners will discuss how to handle this and FESCo can revisit
next week. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:30:48)
* TOPIC: PostgreSQL 18 (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:30:57)
* LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/postgresql18
(@conan_kudo:matrix.org, 18:31:54)
* INFO: The package is marked ON_QA now. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:35:00)
* TOPIC: Remove DNF modularity support from Anaconda (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:35:14)
* INFO: This is marked as ON_QA already. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:35:24)
* TOPIC: Remove Python Mock Usage (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:35:32)
* AGREED: Change is moved to f44 (+5, 0, 0) (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:38:30)
* TOPIC: Retire gtk3-rs, gtk-rs-core v0.18, and gtk4-rs v0.7
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:38:44)
* INFO: This is marked as ON_QA already. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:38:52)
* TOPIC: Stop publishing updates to OSTree repository for CoreOS
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:39:01)
* INFO: This is done and will be marked as ON_QA. (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:45:02)
* TOPIC: Switch Anaconda installer to DNF5 (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:45:15)
* INFO: Repoquery suggest that this is done, but lacking sufficient
confirmation,
we're deferring this decision to next week (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:48:57)
* TOPIC: TBB2022.2.0 (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:49:08)
* INFO: Change is ON_QA now. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:49:23)
* TOPIC: Tomcat 10.1.x (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:49:29)
* INFO: The bug was CLOSED, but we reopened it to ON_QA to track the
change. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:51:01)
* TOPIC: Unification of boot loader updates, phase 1 (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:52:01)
* INFO: Lacking sufficient information, we'll revisit this next week.
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:53:30)
* TOPIC: KTLS implementation for GnuTLS (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:54:04)
* INFO: Owners requested the change to be postponed to f44.
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:56:02)
(There was some chaos here related to quorum. I removed this part of the
minutes here.)
* AGREED: The change is moved to f44 (+5, 0, 0) (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
19:01:45)
* TOPIC: Protobuf 5.x/6.x (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:01:58)
* INFO: We'll revisit this next week. Not enough info. (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
19:03:15)
* TOPIC: Use COLR for Noto Color Emoji (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:03:30)
* INFO: Change is ON_QA. (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:04:07)
* TOPIC: Next weeks chair? (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:05:30)
* ACTION: zbyszek will chair the next meeting (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:06:32)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:06:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/1475
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 19:08:06)
Meeting ended at 2025-08-26 19:09:46
Action items
------------
* sgallagh to reach out to 389 and FreeIPA teams for info
* zbyszek will chair the next meeting
People Present (lines said)
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* @zbyszek:fedora.im (180)
* @sgallagh:fedora.im (121)
* @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (80)
* @conan_kudo:matrix.org (74)
* @decathorpe:fedora.im (35)
* @fale:fale.io (29)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (27)
* @dustymabe:matrix.org (16)
* @mschorm:fedora.im (4)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (3)
* @davdunc:fedora.im (1)
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