On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 09:27:54PM +0200, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 7:35 PM Stephen Smoogen <ssmoo...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Sept 2025 at 13:04, Adam Williamson <adamw...@fedoraproject.org> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2025-09-09 at 14:46 +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >> > Could we instead make all that part of fedora-release? generic-release
> >> > is mostly a clone of fedora-release, with a lot of outdated stuff.
> >> > What would be required to use one of the subpackages of fedora-release
> >> > (possibly a new subpackage) and retire generic-release?
> >>
> >> I think the problem with that is that then any forks would need to
> >> include the fedora-release source RPM, and the goal of generic-release
> >> (and the overall concept of having multiple providers of system-release
> >> and system-logos) is to make that not necessary.
> >
> >
> > Would it make sense to change the way the src.rpms are built and with 
> > generic-release being the 'parent' of fedora-release so that system-wide 
> > changes happen in both that way. Maybe something like a parent 'project' 
> > which has a template set of jinja (or whatever the cool one is these days) 
> > and then changes get made, a make is made, and several src tar balls are 
> > generated which can each be their own package versus a sub-package.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
> 
> Please no. The fedora-release package is already insanely complex, we
> shouldn't make it worse. The generic-release package is intended to be
> simple for the purpose of being replacement branding.

OK. It seems that my idea of getting rid of generic-release is not
going to fly. I merge the PR that was waiting for the last 7 months
and updated generic-release for 44 to fix the FTI and pushed builds
to F43 and rawhide.

> To be honest, I've wondered for a while if we should just pull out the
> presets and have a systemd-presets package instead that contains these
> things so that fedora-release and generic-release don't need duplicate
> preset files and can just depend on the presets packages. That way,
> the presets can also be inherited into ELN and CentOS/RHEL trivially
> too.

I think that'd make sense. Probably better to call it fedora-presets
to maintain visual seperation from systemd subpackages.

Zbyszek
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