On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 05:02:38PM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> On Sun, 2025-11-16 at 11:35 +0000, Christopher Klooz wrote:
> > I was asked to put this proposal once to discussion in the community before
> > officially submitting it:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Enable_%22kernel.yama.ptrace_scope%22_by_default_to_adopt_upstream_kernel_default_(or_a_more_restrictive_setting_if_unforeseen_impact_is_unrealistic)_to_mitigate_attacks/impacts_due_to_malicious,_vulnerable_or_unmaintained/unupdated_packages/processes
>
> Like the previous proposal I do think it is a little too chatty. Even
> the URL is multiple lines long. These walls of text makes it really
> hard to discuss, because it keeps repeating and mixing facts and your
> opinion.
Also currently the Change title is describing the mechanism of
of the change, when it should describe the behavioural change
in a way that both Fedora maintainers and Fedora end users will
easily understand.
IOW, as well as radically reducing the walls of text, it would
be much better for the title (and thus URL) to be approximately
"Disable ptrace for unprivileged users by default"
With regards,
Daniel
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