On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 07:36:36AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 4:25 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 08:31:20AM +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > On 16/11/2025 12:35, Christopher Klooz wrote: > > > > It is the successor of an earlier proposal that included > > > > kernel.yama.ptrace_scope that was withdrawn. Given the wide support of > > > > ptrace_scope in the first proposal and its (imho) advantages, I wanted > > > > to re-propose the ptrace_scope-related part of the withdrawn proposal > > > > early, and in compliance to the suggestions of splitting it from the > > > > other changes. > > > > > > Strong -1. Disabling debug for non-root users is 100% NO-GO for me, as it > > > will make Fedora unusable for development. > > > > It is only changing the default setting. For any given Fedora install it > > would be a one-time task to change the sysctl back to its current value. > > IOW, while it is inconvenient for developers on a freshly deployed machine, > > it is not a blocker that makes Fedora unusable for dev purposes, except > > for machines where you lack admin access & the admin won't change the > > setting for you. > > > > What's the impact for tools like ABRT and DrKonqi? Those do retracing > as non-root users to collect information to submit crash reports, > among other things.
Don't those kind of crash handlers tie into the kernel with a pipe from the registered core_pattern ? Receiving core dumps via the core pattern handler wouldn't require PTRACE capability AFAIK, so should be unaffected. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
