On Wed, Jun 17, 2026, at 12:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-06-16 at 07:26 -0400, Stephen J Smoogen wrote:
>> Well you are going to need to get all the other parts of the release system 
>> working first to make 2factor work.
>
> Why? I don't understand why you keep saying this.
>
> We already have a 2FA requirement for sysadmin-main, and ~everyone in
> sysadmin-main is also a packager (often provenpackager), and we are all
> able to do all the things we need to do. I don't understand why you
> seem to think it's somehow currently impossible to use 2FA for Fedora
> or something?
>


I have to realize that my experiences dealing with the 2factor system are most 
likely out of date. Most of it is from really wanting to roll this out in the 
far past but running into continual 'oh we have to drop this for the time being 
until we get X fixed'. It was also a lot of non-visible work to keep it going 
with the 'volunteers' who tried it outside of sysadmin-main.  


There were a lot of resets from people where various 2 factor applications were 
somehow drifting regularly from what the Fedora system had. The hardware 
support was better but sometimes would still need a regular nudge from a 
sysadmin-main person. Making sure that the person asking for a reset was really 
the person asking was also hard because gpg keys and such were sometimes also 
lost with a hardware device and we had to go find someone who could actually 
see/talk to that person.  [It is easier for most Red Hat people because there 
is an internal checker which can be used.. but otherwise it could take days or 
weeks to get that access back.]

However as I opened this, what I am going off are old and out of date. Most of 
the infra has been rewritten and there are more resources available. I am being 
a grognard versus helping here.. so will stop complaining. 


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- 
Ian MacClaren
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