On 6/23/26 7:24 AM, Jan Stanek wrote:
Hi,
Hi there!
I was on PTO for a while, so I did not reply immediately, but I'll try
to share my view on some of the topics mentioned here now. Sorry for
the delay.
No problem. Thanks for chiming in!
For the unversioned metapackages, may I suggest only having nodejs and
nodejs-npm without the separate -bin subpackages like we have for the versioned
packages?
I don't think the separate unversioned -bin packages make sense here, since
AFAIU the goal of the unversioned metapackages is for users to always get the
primary version and have that be the system default.
The "and" in the last sentence was not in the original idea. I have
always seen those two as orthogonal: You have `nodejs` installed when
you want to "roll"/"autoinstall" the distro-recommended stream, but
that doesn't say anything about which stream is `/usr/bin/node`. If
you want the symlink to also follow the recommendation, you'll have
`nodejs-bin` installed*in addition*.
Granted, I don't think many people would use it this way, so I'm
willing to not provide this option if it causes problems; but I would
not remove it just to reduce the number of generated packages.
I think it just adds unnecessary confusion and complexity to uncouple
these ideas. If there's no guarantee that different users installing
`nodejs` on the same version of Fedora get the same version of nodejs as
/usr/bin/node, then I don't think having a primary version makes much
sense at all.
Additionaly, there is also the matter of consistency. If we keep the
-bin packages, the rule of thumb is simple: You swap which stream is
`/usr/bin/node` by swapping the -bin package: `dnf swap --allowerasing
nodejs-bin nodejs24-bin`. If we get rid of them, it will now be "You
swap the streams by swapping the -bin packages, with the exception of
rolling stream, when you need to switch the main one": `dnf swap
--allowerasing nodejs nodejs24-bin`. For this reason alone, I'm still
in favor of keeping the packages around for the rolling stream as
well.
Can nodejs Provide nodejs-bin and nodejs-npm Provide nodejs-npm-bin so
there's not a need for two extra metapackages but "dnf swap
--allowerasing nodejs-bin nodejs24-bin" should still work?
All the best,
Maxwell
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