Hi again While not meant as an experiment, it's still interesting to see how many responses this triggered within a short timeframe, and which ones. Some thoughts about the value of maintaining specific leaf packages, and people fear supply chain attacks.
Compare this to the number of responses when I asked about packaging advice for a specific package: 0 Just sayin' Michael [No, I'm not a container advocate, I value distribution packaging and do it myself.] Am Do., 29. Okt. 2026 um 12:46 Uhr schrieb Michael J Gruber <[email protected]>: > > Hi there, > while it's fall in some parts of the northern hemisphere and autumn in > others, some thoughts on leaf packages, especially in language > ecosystems. > > Those thoughts are triggered by upstream changes in a python package > that I maintain. I spent quite some time keeping it building in > Fedora, and now trying things to follow the upstream changes according > to our packaging principles, but I'm finally wondering: > > What for? > > In this case, and probably similar others, the upstream package is > just a `pip install foo` away. This is what many users probably do > anyway, because they use something like venv or pipx for dependency > pinning so that their app keeps running with the same module > independent of distro changes., and reproducibly. It guarantees that > you use the module as intended by upstream and can file bug reports > there. > > So, what purpose does my python package serve? The install footprint > might be leaner, well. Who cares nowadays? > > If you're thinking about moving towards a containerised workflow, > possibly switching to an image mode Fedora at some point, a good first > step is to identify what you need in your base system (OS), and what > is rather something "on top" that should live an independent life, > independent of your base install (be it rpm/rpm-ostree/bootc), both > technically and in terms of update cycles. Those things can live in a > container, a flatpak, a venv etc. > > This is not a change proposal. It's just something I observed while > pondering what to spend time on, some seasonal food for thought. New > leaves are great to see in spring, but probably not the most > worthwhile to spend time on in Fedora packaging, unless they serve a > purpose that is achieved best as an rpm install. Same goes for > existing leaves that go dry or outgrow their existing habitat, > reaching for their own ecosystem. > > Cheers > Michael > > FYI: If you're wondering - python-PyMuPDF is the package I mentioned > above, but it's just one example. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new
