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Meeting summary
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* TOPIC: Init Process (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:02:22)
* TOPIC: #3613 Clarify and document responsibilities of the Engineering
representative for Council (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:04:45)
* AGREED: The text in https://forge.fedoraproject.org/fesco/docs/pulls/158
is approved (+5, 1, 0) (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:10:38)
* TOPIC: #3702 Change: Remove DNF4 Stack and Modularity (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:11:10)
* LINK: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/tickets/issues/13574
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:11:19)
* INFO: Information about tools that need to be updated will be collected
in the releng and fesco tickets. We'll revisit the topic next week.
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:22:01)
* TOPIC: #3707 plasma-workspace-x11 was removed from F44 and F45 which is
unacceptable in stable branch updates (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:24:04)
* AGREED: (Rejected (-8, ∓1, +0) (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:38:26)
* TOPIC: Next week's chair
* ACTION: Timothée Ravier will chair the next meeting (@zbyszek:fedora.im,
18:39:16)
* TOPIC: Council happenings (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:39:42)
* TOPIC: Open Floor (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:42:53)
* INFO: https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-45/
(@zbyszek:fedora.im, 18:51:43)
Meeting ended at 2026-11-03 18:53:07
Action items
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* Timothée Ravier will chair the next meeting
People Present (lines said)
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* @zbyszek:fedora.im (65)
* @gotmax23:fedora.im (42)
* @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (33)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (29)
* @salimma:fedora.im (26)
* @conan_kudo:matrix.org (12)
* @siosm:fedora.im (11)
* @niknikovsky:fedora.im (11)
* @maxamillion:one.ems.host (7)
* @decathorpe:fedora.im (6)
* @goode:matrix.org (5)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (3)
* @supakeen:fedora.im (2)
LLM summary:
Key Discussion Points
#3613 - Engineering Representative for Council: A pull request to clarify and
document the responsibilities of the FESCO representative to the Fedora Council
was approved (+5, 1, 0).
#3702 - Remove DNF4 Stack and Modularity:
There is general support for the Change, but concerns were raised about
ensuring all critical infrastructure components that still depend on DNF4
(e.g., Koschei, mdapi, orphaned package reports) are identified and have a
migration plan.
Porting from libdnf (DNF4) to libdnf5 is a non-trivial task.
The current wording of the contingency plan will be reviewed to clarify that
F47 is not necessarily the ultimate deadline for removal if blockers remain.
The topic will be revisited next week after more information is gathered.
#3707 - Removal of plasma-workspace-x11 in F44/F45:
The removal was a side effect of updating KDE to version 6.8, in which upstream
dropped X11 support.
While removing features from stable releases is undesirable, it was deemed
unavoidable due to the KDE SIG's update policy exemption and upstream's
decision.
The request to revert the change was rejected with a vote of (-8, 1, 0).
FESCO Elections: With the Fedora 45 release, FESCO elections will be happening
soon. At least one member (nirik) is term-limited.
s390x Infrastructure: The s390x builders are CPU-constrained, leading to slow
build times. IBM is investigating reallocating more CPUs to the project.
Fedora 45 Release: The official release of Fedora Linux 45 was announced.
Action Items
#3702 - Remove DNF4 Stack: FESCO members and the community are to list tools
and infrastructure that still depend on DNF4 in the relevant releng and FESCO
tickets over the next week.
Next Meeting Chair: Timothée Ravier (siosm) will chair the next meeting.
Forgejo Migration: Members were reminded to test the staging Forgejo dist-git
instance and be ready to discuss it at the next week's Fedora Release
Engineering Contributor Ladder (FRCL) call.
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