On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 22:10 +0900, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> 19.05.2011, 21:12, "n2xssvv.g02gfr12930" <n2xssvv.g02gfr12...@ntlworld.com>:
> > On 19/05/11 09:55, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> >
> >>  Hi.
> >>
> >>  I asked this question in NetworkManager mailing list, but everyone there 
> >> seems to be busy, so I decided to ask here.
> >>
> >>  I run torrents on my notebook. On an electricity outage NetworkManager 
> >> starts asking for a new password, so when I'm not around and the light 
> >> goes back on (powering up the WLAN router), it just stands stalled with 
> >> the dialog open.
> >>
> >>  Is there a way to tell NM not to ask for a new password ever? Because I 
> >> use a 63-symbol passphrase once set up on all the (two) machines so to 
> >> forget about it.
> >>
> >>  Thanks!
> >>
> >>  NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.4-1.fc14.x86_64
> >>
> >>  --
> >>  Best regards,
> >>  Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor
> >>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Shnurapet
> >>  shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, GPG: 00217306
> >
> >   As far as i can tell there is no easy, if any, solution that would not
> > breach the security of your 63-symbol pass phrase. In my experience
> > using knetworkmanager a password is required for each secure Wireless
> > connection  and for security these are stored in a secure encrypted
> > area, (kwallet in my case), which needs just a single password for
> > access. Hence a password is always required for wireless access to
> > reconnect after a power out.
> >   This is not required for wired connections, so unless you can use some
> > wired connection that restarts on power up to do the torrent downloads,
> > you have little choice, without breaching the security provided by your
> > pass phrase, but to accept the problem.
> >   From what I can gather you use long random pass phrases for any
> > external available access which I heartily recommend. Nearly all
> > security breaches are made because it's easy to guess pass phrases that
> > relate to the person who created it.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > cpp4ever
> 
> Many thanks for your answer. However, the nm-applet in GNOME does *not* 
> require you to enter passphrase *each* time you establish the connection 
> you've *once configured*. And this behavior is absolutely correct. Also, 
> makes it feel like with a wired connection.
> 
> What is not absolutely correct is that, when it can't get response from the 
> router, it starts thinking the passphrase has changed (which is wrong because 
> the router is simply off). As soon as power is back on, the AP is back online 
> with the same settings and the same passphrase (how mean of a manufacturer 
> would it be not to implement this). But the client device stands idle  
> waiting for a passphrase.
> 
> I tested a couple of possible scenarios lately. NetworkManager reconnects 
> nicely on outages that last no more than ~1 minute. Beyond that, it starts 
> asking the question. 

We've wanted to make this behavior better for a long time, and it's
still something on the todo list.  So it'll happen.

Dan

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