On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:19 PM,  <john.flor...@dart.biz> wrote:
> devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote on 08/31/2012 12:46:31:
>
>> From: Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com>
>> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Date: 08/31/2012 12:47
>> Subject: Re: Fedora Infrastructure announces status.fedoraproject.org
>> Sent by: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:26 -0500
>> Jon Ciesla <limburg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >> I might have missed something, but are there plans to add bugzilla
>> > >> to this?
>> > >
>> > > It was suggested, but we don't actually run bugzilla.redhat.com or
>> > > have anything to do with it. So it would be a bit difficult to try
>> > > and report status on it when all we could see is 'it's down' or 'it
>> > > seems to be up now'
>> >
>> > That by itself would be enough for me.  And for anyone who sees some
>> > failure and has no idea what's going on.  Even with a not saying
>> > "maintained by RH, not Fedora Inf", or somesuch.
>>
>> I'd really like to avoid that, because it would lead to:
>>
>> "when is it going to be up?" -> no idea.
>> "It works for me, but not for otheruser, is there a network problem?"
>> -> no idea.
>> "You are saying it's down, but it's up for me" (mark it up, site goes
>> down again because of some ongoing problem) "Now it's down, please mark
>> it down again" -> If we managed it, we would know the ongoing issue and
>> could update when it was approprate/fully back up.
>>
>> And cases where we mark it down, when it's not, or only for some users,
>> etc.
>>
>> It also opens the door for "Oh, can you monitor my fedora related site
>> and report on it there?" which I REALLY don't want to do. The updates
>> are a manual process, so it's already another step someone in
>> Infrastructure has to do when there is an outage.
>>
>> Lets keep it to sites that Fedora Infrastructure directly manages.
>>
>> kevin
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>
> That makes lots of sense, but I suspect you'll get just as many "why isn't
> bugzilla shown here?" questions ... unless maybe the page had some hint that
> it only monitors sites directly managed by the Fedora Project, which is why
> sites like bugzilla, etc., etc. are not shown here.

I see your point, but I'm swayed by Kevin's logic.

-J

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