On 14/03/13 01:52 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 14.03.2013 21:50, schrieb Lennart Poettering:
Well, then update your hardware

That effectively means that *virtually all* laptops from 2013 on will
POST in ridiculously short times.

Really, just go to your computer store, and look for any laptop that is
designed for Windows 8

WOW

this is a ridiculus attitude fro a linux-developer
most of us are using Linux because we DO NOT need
new hardware each year and you propose ignorance
of this fact?

No, he didn't.

Can we de-escalate the debate?

Lennart did not really say "Everyone should be running hardware capable of POST-ing in two seconds or less".

A few people asserted that they'd never seen such hardware, so Lennart cited some.

The point is not that we must MAKE EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BUY NEW HARDWARE, it's that there really is hardware out there which POSTs very quickly and there is likely to be an increasing amount of such hardware in the future: therefore Lennart's concern with the five seconds spent at the grub screen is legitimate. His point does not require that everyone in the world have fast booting hardware, just that such hardware exist and be likely to become increasingly prevalent. 5 seconds at grub isn't worth worrying about if the rest of boot can be relied upon to take 40 seconds, as always used to be the case for just about everyone, but when there really are systems that can otherwise boot in 3 or 4 seconds, that 5 seconds becomes comparatively significant.
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