On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:43:04PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 16.07.13 09:42, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote:
> 
> > > journalctl only supports local time specifications when you
> > > specify calendar times. Unfortunately there's no nice API to map
> > > calendar times that include time zone specifications back to UTC, in
> > > particular because the time zone names are not unique...
> > > While it will be hard to support arbitrary timezone specs in --since= it
> > > should be relatively easy to support UTC in addition to the local
> > > timezone. Added this to the TODO list.
> > 
> > You only need to add or subtract hours and minutes from the local time,
> > because ISO 8601 dates contain the UTC offset:
> > 
> > | $ date --iso-8601=seconds
> > | 2013-07-15T22:37:04+0200
> 
> Well, we can certainly add support for such numeric timezone specs
> (added to the TODO list), but I have my doubts that this is actually
> what people want to use in their day-to-day use, given that the numbers
> are hard to remember. 

Thank you.

> I am pretty sure that most folks would like to specify symbolic timezone
> names, but that's hard to do due to lack of APIs for that, and the
> non-uniqueness of the names.

I guess for most use cases using the local time zone is enough.

Btw. can journalctl output ISO 8601 dates instead of the US formated
date without a year? I really expected journalctl to cleanup this as
well.

> > > Note that the journal actually knows a concept called "cursors". The
> > > cursors are a way to refer to a specific log line (or the closest
> > > available one) in a stable way. by using this you can make a logic like
> > > the above work nicely, and even remove any inaccuracy regarding
> > > timestamps...
> > 
> > The manpage only mentions how to specify which cursor to use but not how
> > to get the cursor of the last read line.
> 
> journalctl -o verbose will give you that (and so will -o json, -o export
> and others), but the rest of the output is very low-level then. Maybe we
> can add a switch that prints the final cursor as last line if you
> specify some switch.

The extra switch sounds useful.

Regards
Till
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