On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:26:22PM -0700, Eric Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Miller
> <mat...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:58:40PM -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
> >> You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts
> >> that monitor /var/log/messages
> > A) If someone is installing a program that expects this file, they can also
> > install rsyslog.
> 
> So? The same argument could be made for programs that expect the binary 
> journal.

  No it isn't.  It was already said: journald is here always, rsyslog is 
optional.
The question is: should we install optional rsyslog by default?


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