On Wed, 11 Sep 2013, Thomas Woerner wrote:

On 09/10/2013 10:07 PM, Peter Oliver wrote:

Now, if you're running a server and you install, say, Apache, I think
you expect to have to go and poke at the firewall config, but these seem
to be very desktop-focused features, and the UI provides no clue about
the extra steps required.

I am not sure if I am getting this right. What is 'these'? Are you are talking about the desktop UI or firewall-config UI here?

I was talking about the desktop UI.  It doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me to have 
user-facing switches in the desktop UI that, in the default system configuration, are 
"broken" (from a naive user's point of view).

To be able to add a service configuration file, the information about ports etc. is needed. Dynamic ports are not good for this. Lots of these desktop features are using some dynamic port(s), which makes the creation of service configuration files hard or impossible.

A futher complication is that some depend on other features, such as mDNS.  In 
an ideal world there'd be some way to express this in the configuration, I 
suppose.

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