On fös 20.des 2013 09:49, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le mercredi 18 décembre 2013 à 21:40 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a
écrit :
On mið 18.des 2013 21:20, Reindl Harald wrote:
who do you think you are to claim whatever people are "outside the community"?
Individual that tells that truth and shed's light how RH operates.
Shed light on "RH decide on its own how to spend their money without
asking to others" ?
Or the truth of "having job title not decided by the community" ?
Red Hat as an corporate is reflected in the actions that it's employee
take within Fedora no more needs to be said in that regard.
Since you are not aware of it Red Hat invented the position of Fedora QA
Community Manager ( I dont know who but I would very much like to meet
that person ) and placed Adam in that position.
"Community manager" != "manager". Yes, the title doesn't express it
quite well, create some confusions and I would suggest to people in
similar position to use "community gardener" as Dave Neary told me once
to emphasise the difference.
But if you would look at what I think to be usual US job titles, you
could see stuff like "office manager", "key account manager" and various
other titles that doesn't hold much managerial responsibility in the
traditional sense ( ie, managing people, deciding what others people do,
etc ).
You can try to twist this in Red Hat benefit as you want for all the job
description and positions which have been advertised as a leading
positions within the community and filled with people outside.
So focusing on job title rather than the acts of the person seems to be
a quite weak foundation for any kind of conclusion, especially since the
last part of your mail seems to imply that you do not know what is in
the job description.
Adam had no history with the community when he took that job and neither
does Mike R.
Adam demonstrated skills by working on QA for another distribution ( ie
mandriva ) for several years, handling discussion with community,
handling tests on Cooker, etc, etc. It is all archived on ml, you can
check.
I have no interest in checking archived other distribution mailing list
since they are entirely irrelevant and which community has Mike worked
in/with and all the other employees outside the community that have been
hired and given leadership position within the project?
So claiming he had no history with the community is either a lie,
or a myopic view of the community by restricting yourself to Fedora QA
while ignoring the free software community at large for no good reasons.
For no good reason are you OK.
Our community is completely different to other community's so claiming
that an individual that has work for example with or for Ubuntu does not
make him an *expert* dealing with our community or community in general.
JBG
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