Longer term, would turning this "stateless" via new systemd features
be helpful?.

On 31 July 2014 18:13, Brian C. Lane <b...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 05:04:16AM -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
>
>> Some ideas:
>> 1. First and foremost, we should obviously consider whether we can make some 
>> compose changes that would make the image more compatible with third-party 
>> USB installers. That's very technical, but I hope relevant people could 
>> provide some comments here.
>>
>
> I suppose we could install a dracut module for the live initrd that
> assumes live by default instead of depending on the rd.live.image
> argument. But that won't help much when they totally mangle the cmdline
> or the iso label.
>
>> 2. Second, we could make USB conversion instructions more visible on our 
>> pages. If you look at http://fedoraproject.org/, there's a big Download Now! 
>> button, which gives you the ISO, but you'll never encounter any suggestions 
>> what to do with it. That's only available at 
>> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora#desktops in the right column (which 
>> is nice and quite visible, I think). Could we provide the same information 
>> on the front page?
>
> I think this is the one that has the best chance for success. We need to
> clearly direct people to the usb creation instructions, encourage use of
> dd on linux/osx systems and liveusb-creator on Windows.
>
>>
>> 3. Third, if everything goes wrong and you end up in a dracut shell, could 
>> we at least advise our users what went wrong and what to do with it? Because 
>> the current output is very scary and very hard to decipher by a general user:
>> http://www.zive.cz/uploadedfiles/38598240.png
>> So what if we detected that we failed to find a partition having 
>> "Fedora-Live" in its name (thus most probably an incorrectly created 
>> LiveUSB), and in that case printed out something like this?
>>
>> *******************************************************************************
>> * It seems Fedora Live image could not have been accessed. This often 
>> happens *
>> * when Live USB media is incorrectly created by a third-party USB installer. 
>>  *
>> * Please refer to official documentation on fedoraproject.org for proper     
>>  *
>> * instructions.                                                              
>>  *
>> *******************************************************************************
>> (native speakers will surely make it sound better)
>
> We might be able to do this along with a module that assumes live instead of
> normal boot.
>
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