Longer term, would turning this "stateless" via new systemd features be helpful?.
On 31 July 2014 18:13, Brian C. Lane <b...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 05:04:16AM -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > >> Some ideas: >> 1. First and foremost, we should obviously consider whether we can make some >> compose changes that would make the image more compatible with third-party >> USB installers. That's very technical, but I hope relevant people could >> provide some comments here. >> > > I suppose we could install a dracut module for the live initrd that > assumes live by default instead of depending on the rd.live.image > argument. But that won't help much when they totally mangle the cmdline > or the iso label. > >> 2. Second, we could make USB conversion instructions more visible on our >> pages. If you look at http://fedoraproject.org/, there's a big Download Now! >> button, which gives you the ISO, but you'll never encounter any suggestions >> what to do with it. That's only available at >> http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora#desktops in the right column (which >> is nice and quite visible, I think). Could we provide the same information >> on the front page? > > I think this is the one that has the best chance for success. We need to > clearly direct people to the usb creation instructions, encourage use of > dd on linux/osx systems and liveusb-creator on Windows. > >> >> 3. Third, if everything goes wrong and you end up in a dracut shell, could >> we at least advise our users what went wrong and what to do with it? Because >> the current output is very scary and very hard to decipher by a general user: >> http://www.zive.cz/uploadedfiles/38598240.png >> So what if we detected that we failed to find a partition having >> "Fedora-Live" in its name (thus most probably an incorrectly created >> LiveUSB), and in that case printed out something like this? >> >> ******************************************************************************* >> * It seems Fedora Live image could not have been accessed. This often >> happens * >> * when Live USB media is incorrectly created by a third-party USB installer. >> * >> * Please refer to official documentation on fedoraproject.org for proper >> * >> * instructions. >> * >> ******************************************************************************* >> (native speakers will surely make it sound better) > > We might be able to do this along with a module that assumes live instead of > normal boot. > > -- > Brian C. Lane | Anaconda Team | IRC: bcl #anaconda | Port Orchard, WA > (PST8PDT) > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct