============================================ #fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2015-01-14) ============================================
Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:10 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-01-14/env-and-stacks.2015-01-14-12.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * hello-ing (hhorak, 12:01:44) * Fedora Rings (hhorak, 12:03:21) * LINK: http://mattdm.org/fedora/next/#15 (hhorak, 12:05:39) * LINK: http://mattdm.org/fedora/next/#20 (hhorak, 12:05:40) * there is no clear sense of the details of each ring.. e.g. definition, type of things in the ring, loose guidelines, users' expectations, motivation to use the rings (hhorak, 12:18:13) * IDEA: ring2 may be split into ring 2 and ring 3 - the new ring 2 should contain only system high-level stacks (we'll always need system versions of e.g. interpreted langauges) and ring 3 should contain copr/playground and possibly also upstream-type of repos (hhorak, 12:18:17) * ring 0 is a minimal bootable system - basically the domain of the Base WG (hhorak, 12:33:37) * IDEA: question is what can be moved out of ring 1 to ring 2? (hhorak, 12:40:13) * IDEA: the "promotion" idea.. as in ... the lower the number of ring the higher quality of the package and the more it must be maintained (hhorak, 12:40:13) * IDEA: definition of ring 1 is a minimal set of packages that give you a functional system, with some sort of approval (hhorak, 13:31:21) * IDEA: ring 1 should be self-hosted -- because you want to build very solid important packages using very solid important packages (hhorak, 13:31:21) * IDEA: WG-wkstn may want to package httpd differently than WG-server -- that could be solved on configuration - level like httpd-dev and httpd-prod (hhorak, 13:31:21) * IDEA: then ring 2 includes clean/good pkgs of other stuff; ring 3 good pkgs but not complete; ring 4 any old stuff (hhorak, 13:32:31) * IDEA: topic for ML or some of the next meetings: setting some technical expectations about how to differ ring 0, 1, 2.. (hhorak, 13:40:44) * IDEA: topic for ML or some of the next meetings: look more closely on users' wok-flow -- say he wants to develop or use some app from ring X -- what it actually means in practice.. (hhorak, 13:40:44) Meeting ended at 13:45:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * juhp_ (69) * bkabrda (64) * langdon (50) * hhorak (45) * vpavlin (28) * zodbot (4) * jzeleny-mtg (1) * samkottler (0) * tjanez (0) * sicampbell (0) * juhp (0) * ncoghlan (0) * pkovar (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
