On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Zdenek Kabelac <zkabe...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Dne 11.9.2015 v 14:46 Germano Massullo napsal(a): > >> I have read the whole discussion and I would like to share my opinion, >> even if I think it could be a bit off-topic. >> Given that Fedora community alone, cannot educate every upstream >> developer about unbundling, and considering that it is a problem that >> interests all main Linux distributions: I think that Fedora community >> could (and should) propose to other Linux distribution communities to >> make a general effort to kindly ask upstream devs to reconsider their >> work, enforcing unbundling. >> This will take years, but I think it is a way we should cover. >> >> > How Fedora wants to educate 'upstream' when it rather fails on many levels > when we talk about library handling. > > Fault #1 > > Fedora badly supports multiple libraries of different version - i.e. > typically full rebuild of whole repo is made when new library is introduced > - which is typically quite bad idea (and this is not just because of simple > version change requires reload of many GB of packages) > (I've already complained that usage of rawhide & rpmfusion is getting > silly) > > > > Fault #2 > > Version of libraries is wrongly handled on packaging level as well as on > build level and many library packages are not correctly versioned - so if > someone believe there is some use of libname.so.major.minor.patch - for > RPM it's mostly useless and if symbols are not properly version inside > library, dependency will simply not work - and just adding 'constant' > version string to every symbol inside library will not make this work > > Zdenek > > I get the feeling this is related to Fedora not aggressively using versioned package names for libraries, or at least enabling some kind parallel installing capability. SUSE used to follow a policy similar to our current one, but switched due to the insanity and impracticality. Mageia also uses a policy almost identical to SUSE's. For an example, here's SUSE's policy: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Shared_library_packaging_policy I've been meaning to ask about why we don't do this for a while now, but it seems like now is a good of a time as any... -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!
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